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Author Topic: Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?  (Read 3941 times)

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Offline Doris104

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Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?
« on: November 29, 2008, 03:29:57 AM »
Can someone clear this up for me?  I have had 3 people give me different opinions of this piece, and I'm not sure who to believe.  As close as I can determine, it is 9" long. 

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http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo70/doris104/Phoenix2.jpg

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Re: Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2008, 04:57:24 AM »
It's Imperial #5026, you can see other examples here [LINK REMOVED].

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Re: Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2008, 04:29:48 PM »
That looks just like mine, but do you know the dimensions?  I was told that mine is to big to be an original.
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Re: Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 04:53:01 PM »
They are 5" tall, the verde green satin was reissued 1964-66.  Fostoria made a crystal one that was sold in 1990.
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Re: Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2008, 07:47:23 PM »
Is that to the top of the bowl or the tip on its head?
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Re: Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2008, 08:43:36 PM »
I don't have one but I would think the tallest part would be measured, there is no length given.
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Re: Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2008, 11:50:19 PM »
I don't know if this is relevant, and it may be just the angle of the camera, but it seems like the head on the green one doesn't form the same angle with the neck that the blue one does.  Looks like the head on the blue one is tucked in a little.  But again, I don't know if that's really true or meaningful.

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Re: Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2008, 03:45:23 AM »

That is one of the issue that I am having in trying to identify this piece.  Most of the pictures I see of the original seem to have a different shape neck, but then I had one person who is in the glass id business say that it was an original.  I just don't see that it is.  That's why I am trying to get others opinion.  I think it is a copy, but it's hard not to agree with a professional.
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Re: Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 10:49:27 AM »
It seems likely that the curve in the neck was created after the item was removed from the mould, in which case the angle of the neck would vary.

The other question is why would it be a copy, it was obviously produced over at least two periods, so there are bound to be small differences.

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Re: Real Imperial Glass Phoenix or copy?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2008, 01:50:25 PM »
You should contact http://www.imperialglass.org, with that much doubt you should always seek out the authorities.  They will have the most current information. 
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