Topic: New Buys - Murano?

[David555]

Hi

Three new buys - any help appreciated

This ruby basket has a lot of ware to foot rim and the Murano sticker, any idea of maker

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/murano%20basket%20copy.jpg

This is a beautifully made piece with rolled twists making up a cylinder shape - blue with yellow sommerso halo - finished beautifully to top with a lot of age ware to base

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/sommerso%20twist%20copy.jpg

Finally - this is not new again lot of tiny age ware scratches to base, may be Florence rather than Murano

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/yellow%20bowl%20copy.jpg

Thanks

Adam D555 :twisted:  :twisted:

[paradisetrader]

ruby basket
I've seen so many of these, unless some special feature I doubt they are attributable to maker.

cylinder shape
I have a feeling that this is not Murano. Pos Czech or "other"

Yellow Lidded dish
Yep Florentine - see Terry's (glasswizzard) thread on the main board titled "~Poss Stennett-Willson~" or similar .....from memory. Nice piece - I collect yellow glass - let me know when you sell please. Similar seen with Raymor or Rayware (get confused between these two...I wonder if any connection) labels.

[David555]

Thank you

Any more info on lidded bowl (will be listing soon)

Rayware / Raymore bit confused is that an importer of glass like G Hardy?


I can see the bowl may be Florence - any ID on maker

Adam D555 :twisted:  :twisted:

[paradisetrader]

Rayware / Raymore
OK Rayware is probably the British side of the business or a separate British firm as Terry has never heard of them and I'm drinking out of one of their mugs and a very nice stylish one it is too.

Type Raymor (ooops no e) into Ebay.com and you will see all sorts of pottery and china as well as glass and other stuff.

I call these type of firms "re-labelers". They source worldwide then relabel or badge as their own most often hiding the true maker and country of origin. Just occaisionally you will find a "made in xxxx " sticker too so country in this case is known. But I did see one of their badged items which had a shpping label on the box "Kastrup" ...a Per Lutken designed opalescent shell bowl!

So they dealt in quality stuff and I believe even commissioned designs themselves. In the US Raymor has become a "brand" in itself eventhough I don't think they actually make anything.

Any more info on lidded bowl (will be listing soon)...........I can see the bowl may be Florence - any ID on maker

Er yeah I have all the secrets which I shall tell after the auction ends :twisted: I even know the designer   :twisted:  (if there was a designer for this very simple and modest item that is !!! ) no actually it was Fredde wot made it after hours in AA's shed. ...he used to design for Woolies but got made redundant .....make sure you spell Fredde correctly

[Anne]

Rayware group has a website - they are the parent company of Ravenhead, Dema, Arthur Wood, amongst others: http://www.rayware.co.uk/

No idea on Raymor though.

[David555]

Peter you tease me  :cry:  :cry:  :!:  :!:

Fredde Wot - Woolies

I will have to list as a attributed to a 'Raymore Import' of a Florentine maker unknown, date unknown - that will get them excited  :?  :?

Talking about glass from Florence - I will also be putting two pieces on as follows

Interglass Cabinet Goblet with amazing mottled blue like Monart and gold leaf decoration which has been hand engraved all around in swags and scrolls (classical style) not that old and has label 'Interglass - hand made in Italy - 24kt Gold - King of Florence by Interglass of Italy - Lead Crystal 24% P.po' Phew

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/interglass.jpg

Lidded Bowl that seems older from ware (that does not detract) - deep green body with lots of raised deep rose gold gilding - has amazing detail with an art nouveau twist - applied flowers to lid wich are hand painted along with enamel foliage - is a tiny chip to one flower petal, but it is a lovely thing and in fantastic condition (7" high) for what it cost me - I am sure there is a thread about this on the board??

emm http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1565.0.html - Royo or Moser

I think this may be Royo... ahh who knows :shock:  :shock:

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/florence.jpg

Adam D (for deeply) 666 :twisted:  :twisted:

[Ivo]

I think this may be Royo... ahh who knows :shock:  :shock:
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/florence.jpg
Adam D555 :twisted:  :twisted:

I knows!
NO WAY this is Royo. It is what we know as "cold enamel and gold" or "Terzo Fuoco". Your example was made in the Czech Republic (by far the largest producer, check the Egermann site) or in Serbia; Italian examples tend to be more imaginative in their decoration - but it is still regarded a far cry from Art Glass. I once asked about (cousin) Francesco Barbini, who runs the largest decorating shop in Italy for Terzo Fuoco glass to Mrs. Barbini and If Looks Could Kill!
Royo is high gloss hot enamel in a most specific Mudejar inspired decoration- Terzo Fuoco is matt, floral and fired at a low temperature.

[Max]

My Royo vase:

http://tinypic.com/bgwbuo.jpg

I've got a basket now too!    

I've been trying to work out if it's a good time to sell them both...  :roll:  Whenever I sell anything, it seems it's always the WRONG time, and I sell for very little.   :cry:  :cry:

Now...whether to put 'Moser' in the auction title...      

[David555]

Well I did say 'who knows' - I thought Czech but was just messing about with the Royo thing

If looks could kill  :shock:  :shock: - I can see where the cold painting is overlapping the gold but it is a nice object with art nouveau leanings and very well made for what it is, it's hardly Woolies or Ikea

I think it is an older piece, if not 1900 then 1950s copy - the ware is in all the right places and it is all hand made, hand gilded and painted, I can see the hand blown bowl and the twisted stem and foot applied - also the raised gilding is not uniform, I can see it is hand trailed with a blob at the end of each whiplash, the applied finial is uneven showing hand made application

At £3.00 I am not complaining and I am sure it will be appreciated by someone when I sell it at a low start - it photographs beautifully

You are right about the Royo decoration it is very 'Italian'  :wink:  

I am sure my bowl sits fine as a cabinet piece in the nouveau style

What about the Interglass piece - I regard that less than the bowl yet it is Italian and very similar in decoration - they must still be going and worth a brief inclusion in a glass fact file new addition LOL

Egermann sits well for me - its the colors and the applied flowers I see on the website pictures - I do think it is an older piece though, the company has been making copies of originals for ages it seems

http://www.crystal-treasury.com/store/bohemiacrystal/IndexRam.asp?Odkaz=*&LevaLista=Glass_Crystal&Line=High_enamel

http://www.crystal-treasury.com/store/bohemiacrystal/IndexRam.asp?Odkaz=*&LevaLista=Glass_Crystal&Line=High_enamel


The newer items also seem hand made to a point but with applied decoration in very uniform style - I also can't find my item shape, nothing as nouveau as it

I wish it was brand new - the prices they are looking for $100 for a 4" bowl

Anyway I am going off topic so I if I want to talk further I will start a thread in 'Glass'

Adam D555 :twisted:  :twisted:

[Ivo]

I side with Mrs. Barbini who could not see a single redeeming feature in her cousin's handiwork - and I can assure you the Czech bling bling is even less inspired than the Italian bling bling.

Please be re-informed that there is nothing Italian about Royo, neither in design nor in decoration.

Re Interglass: if it is not in the a-z book it is a retailer, relabeler or decorator shop.