Topic: Deco Style Three Legged Vase

[Ohio]

Hi. Am asking for help on this one. Its not US & have been on several European sites trying to find a match. 9 3/4" in height & 4 3/4" diameter. Color is strange...a brownish Green or a Greenish Brown depending on your view. A few (very few) specks of old paint left within the floral pattern. Appreciate the assistance as usual. Thanks, Ken

[pamela]

I've had this one seen earlier - might recall perhaps: Please give me a chance to GRÃœBEL which means something like 

[pamela]

isn't it a JOBLING??

[Ohio]

Thanks Pamela. I was able to find a match searching Jobling. The only difference was that it was "open" between the legs where mine is closed by the three panels between each leg so it might just be a design change. Appreciate the lead. Ken

[Lustrousstone]

Except that colour doesn't look English... perhaps a Jobling lookalike. The browns are generally lighter, more amber.

[Mosquito]

This is probably, as Pamela has suggested, Jobling. This appears to be a variant of the 11600 'Open Footed Vase'. It is possible that the design was altered during production as was the case with the ballerina figure, however, I have yet to see any evidence to support this.

Here's a pic of the other version with the genuinely open foot http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6022 (this is definitely Jobling as it's marked with the reg. no. on one of the legs).

Regarding colours, Jobling made at least two shades which could be described as amber, a pale yellow and a much deeper brown http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6115 & http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5952 , however, neither seem to match the colour of Ken's vase, so I am beginning to have some doubts.

I have Pamela's old example of this pattern (http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/08008.jpg) here on my shelf., the colour of this one is consistent with Jobling's lighter amber colour.

Another observation is that the open and closed version of this vase do differ greatly. It is not simply a case of the legs having been closed in, the moulds show many differences. The closed versions has much slimmer legs, a rounded foot with a base star, rather than a panelled foot which is plain underneath on the open version. The leaves and flowers are also completely different, the leaves are much slimmer and more pointed on the closed version.   

[Lustrousstone]

Maybe this is an issue like the Sowerby Dora and her lookalike friend http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,23144.0.html

[Mosquito]

Just seen an interesting comment from Bernard re. this pattern in an earlier post.

In respect of pressed glass moulds we have information from Baker & Crowe about retooling the moulds for two Jobling 1930s figurines because of difficulties in extracting the finished article from the mould, and we know that the Open-Footed Vase (No. 11600) went through a similar process.

The full text is here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,20027.0.html
Unfortunately it doesn't mention how we know this, so I think we'd benefit from Bernard's input here...

[Lustrousstone]

Would retooling for ease of extraction result in

Another observation is that the open and closed version of this vase do differ greatly. It is not simply a case of the legs having been closed in, the moulds show many differences. The closed versions has much slimmer legs, a rounded foot with a base star, rather than a panelled foot which is plain underneath on the open version. The leaves and flowers are also completely different, the leaves are much slimmer and more pointed on the closed version.

[Mosquito]

That's a hard question to answer.... I'd say that re-tooling to ease extraction wouldn't need such changes to the flowers, etc. on the upper part of the vase as these parts shouldn't have caused any problems. However, the mould would have had to be heavily re-worked and that may have involved changing the pattern to achieve a more consistent result. Likewise it may also be that the whole mould(s) had to be replaced and the style may have been changed then.