Topic: Unusual Mdina facet cut inside out vase

[flying free]

I was about to post this on a separate thread after MUCH searching and thought just one last check...so here is my verdala bowl in 'orange and blue'!  or red and blue depending on how you see the colour   but it's definitely not orange and green  

In Charles Hajdamach 20th century British Glass there is a picture of a tall bottle in the same decor and it states 'probably early 70's'.  I've also been through Mark Hill's book and on page 53 he says 'All pieces with orange bodies date from the late 70's onwards, but these were most popular during the 1980's'.

My bowl is 8 inches wide (20cm) by 2.5 inches high (6.5cm), and I wondered whether this was an earlier piece i.e. 70's given it's shape?  It is smaller than the Verdala ashtray/bowl as in Mark's book it says this was 9.75 inches.  He says this shape (and I have read it that they were in the decor he refers to as the green and sandy ochre with internal bubbles) was added to the catalogues and appeared from the mid 1970's.  I just wondered if this bowl would date from as early as the late 70's perhaps then?
Many thanks for any opinions 
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[chopin-liszt]

It's definitely a Verdala bowl. :thup:
They come in different sizes - I've got Ming one@ 8.25" diameter, a red and blue strapped one @ 7.75" and a "seaweedy" one @ 10".

Ming and the red and blue strapping are post-Harris - you really have to go by the colours and patterns - this (to my eyes) red and blue is what Mark refers to as orange with applied green/blue, and, as he says in his book; "Michael Harris: Mdina Glass & Isle of Wight Studio Glass", p.53, "All pieces with orange bodies date from the late '70s on...". I would think that there is a possibility that a Verdala bowl may be late '70s rather than well into the '80s.

However, I don't think they're that scarce.

(heehee, but I think my seaweedy one is!)

[flying free]

Thanks Sue, I love this bowl a LOT.  But from your comments I still don't yet have a 'collection' of rare then 
Onwards and upwards as they say, so that's rare and NSC I'm now looking for 
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[chopin-liszt]

It has to be said, I rarely use the "R" word..... I think it's a bit dodgy. :wsh:

[glassobsessed]

Picked up another facet cut inside out vase last weekend, a tad more colourful than the one which started this thread (flat polished base on the new one). I am very pleased with it.

John

[chopin-liszt]

Totally appropriate, given we're gettting a new Dr. Who and it's all over the media - these belong right in that fantasy world - this new one of yours particularly - what a gorgeous effect you get where the cutting shows the all the insidey layers.
(not to mention, congrats on your sleuthing finding this thread!)

Lovely. Just perfectly lovely. 

(ps, I wonder if we're finally getting to the bottom of that one pot of cobalt glass that was melted at Mdina.... ?  )

[flying free]

that's lovely John 

'(ps, I wonder if we're finally getting to the bottom of that one pot of cobalt glass that was melted at Mdina.... ?  )'

is John's latest find cobalt ?  or am I misunderstanding. 

I have a cobalt blue sidestripe I've not yet shown.  Mainly because I've become confused about a comment on here on another thread  - where John says that it was only used in it's unmodified form as a final colour for a short period of production in the first year, and that in it's unmodified form means with no chlorides etc added.  Mine is cobalt blue without a shadow of a doubt but has chlorides in it internally.  So was it a cobalt blue pot that was used in another period of time? or is it from the one pot of cobalt blue used in the first year    Happy to post it on another thread but have been silently wondering in my few glassy moments available at the mo 
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[chopin-liszt]

We hadn't seen any with silver chloride in the actual cobalt blue bit - but my "Precious Baby Fish" has streaks of cobalt, as well as the ambers and turquoisey blue and clear.
The peculiar small, (damaged) strapped bottle I acquired recently is Cobalt, but only in the final, partial casing.
(I haven't posted any images of that yet.)
I think the simple answer is that we really don't know, M.
What we can speculate depends on what comes out of the woodwork!

[flying free]

ok, I'll post a new thread - I don't think mine has chloride in the cobalt blue casing - it's like an almost inside out that someone posted (I need to find the thread) - I think the chlorides are all internal.
I've not double checked the pics of it or brought it down from upstairs yet.  I'll go and get it and post
m