Topic: Unknown large Blackbird ....who IS he ?

[Artifarti]

Hi again .... right , I've just had a look at the link you sent me, and the first bird has an AWFUL bottom, no my boy is not like that !!!! He is polished, and you can see straight through him to his glass 'innards'... BUT Im going to say, in his defense, his innards are very close to the surface on him, he is completely enclosed in clear glass, a lot of the pictures I am seeing of various 'feathered' or 'cabled' items,the innards, sit deep inside the clear glass.... my boys innards are just below the clear glass shell.... and his bottom looks fairly dark, because he has so much black and grey innards ... maybe that's why he doesn't look polished in the photos :-( ...AND  he FEELS polished, not matt...
I think he's lovely, and that's all that really matters at the end of the day... If I see another like him, I would purchase it... In Italy or TKmax !!! :-) So ... to change the subject WHO is this elephant...another unsigned piece....16cm tall ...and he has a very shiny bottom !!!  ... any ideas? :-))) 

[flying free]

Hi is it possible to post your elephant in a separate thread please otherwise it becomes difficult for the mods to separate the identification
once that has happened?
And yes you are right.  It doesn't matter where something was made - buying something because you love it regardless of provenance is the best way I find

m

[Artifarti]

:-) yes that's fine... I have two elephants and a duck that have no name sor pedigree .... is there a limit to the number of pieces I can ask after.... ?? :-)

[flying free]

Hi no, but I think the request is that one only posts 3 per day to avoid all others disappearing off the first page too quickly.  Please ask away with each one on a separate thread

 I've been looking at labelled versions or Ronneby and Nason birds to try and find a match for you but there are differences between your bird and the ones I've found:

- The bases of the ones I've found are highly polished and look different to yours and
- they all have the sfumato effect going around a 'core ' if you like, so you can see on the base pics an outer circle of sfumato effect around the internal circle, whereas the blackbird doesn't look the same and
-  they all seem to have a thick clear cased layer around the piece whereas he doesn't.

This is a labelled Nason piece and the photos are good and demonstrate what I'm trying to describe (the base photo does it well).
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MURANO-Controlled-Bubble-BLUE-GLASS-DUCK-V-Nason-Co-Italy-/161050986887?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item257f630987

m

[Artifarti]

Yes... that's what I am seeing, he is encased in lovely clear glass, but there's not much depth to it ... strange isn't it. To be perfectly honest , I have a piece (not an animal) that has the 'core' cabling'.... and its not my favourite thing, up close its clever, but across a room, it looks like a shapeless blob, because you only see the inner coloured 'cable' !! I still don't think he's Italian, because the eye is different to every Italian piece I either own, or have ever seen.... at the same time, I don't think he's a 'cheapie' copy, because he has 'quality'.... hard to define, but always there in a good piece of glass, weight, texture, workmanship, clarity and light in the glass.... I was saying in an earlier post, that I do not understand why a craftsman, no matter what his medium, wouldn't or doesn't put his signature, or mark on a piece... its such a shame ! To make matter worse ( for me personally ) I HATE paper labels... if anything comes into my house, chances are the first thing I will do is scratch the labels off .... mind you I don't wear designer clothes with labels all over them either !! Still, he's a beautiful thing, and I shall enjoy him as he is... unknown ! :-) thank you so much for all your help, and time, and effort.... Ive learned lots in the process, and its been really interesting... I shall try not to inundate the forum, I have another two or three mysteries (where other people have scratched labels off ! ) I always like to answer anyone that has made an effort though ... maybe I'll look for help on just one item per week :-) Kindest regards
Sue

[rosieposie]

It might be worth asking this seller for lore pictures of their bird, as it looks quite similar to yours,  but the details are difficult to make out.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-GLASS-BIRD-/151068960800

[Artifarti]

Hiya .... I cannot believe that you found this bird ... it IS identical :-) I shall get in touch with the seller, and see if he has any marks or labels that might help.... WOW ! I've never seen one like him in a couple of years, and you find an almost perfect match in under a week.... I am very impressed and practically speechless ! :-) thank you so much. I shall let you know what mr. bird seller has to say, if he replies.
take care, kindest regards
Sue

[rosieposie]

Hi Sue, I know we are over a year on,  but did you ever contact the seller of the black bird and find out if it had any makers name?
I would be very interested to know.
Rosie.