Topic: Unknown large Blackbird ....who IS he ?

[Artifarti]

Hi... I hope someone can help with this chap. I normally collect Large murano animals, with the odd chunky or contempary beast for good measure... but I found this rather stunning black bird / crow about two years ago at a boot fair, and do not know what he is (apart from the fact that he's a bird) The glass is stunning, with almost each 'feather' worked throughout his body, he appears black or silvered , depending on the light, he has no signature, labels or anything.... he's 13cm tall and 21cm long...and really really would love to know what or who he is, partly because Im nosey, partly because I cannot stand a mystery.... but mostly because I love him and would like to credit him to his artist !!! Hope you can help, I would love any ideas :-) thanks in anticipation !
kindest regards
Sue

[Lustrousstone]

Can we have a base shot please. We always need base shots

[Artifarti]

:-) okidoki....
I just assumed you wouldn't be interested, as he has no marks or signature.... although in his case, he is rather nicely finished off, with a very tidy bottom ....
Thank you
Sue

[ahremck]

With those internal "feathers" I would suspect either V Nason [Murano] (most likely) or perhaps Marcolin/Ronneby (but I don't remember seeing one that was not clearly engraved).  The beak looks very like a Nason bird I found.  So I am nearing certainty.  I assume it is meant to be a raven/crow.

Ross

[Artifarti]

Thank you .... now youv'e started me off on a journey around the internet ( and I had things to do this afternoon ! ) Ive got a couple of Nasons .... hmm, and Ive seen couple out here, that have the internal 'feathery things', but they are more like ...'cabley things' and the look of the ends of the glass, where theyve been clipped off seem well... harsher if that makes sense, this bird, all his ends are really soft... also, murano critters .. always seem to have a  certain 'eye', always the same... I have 9 horses (1's a fake and two have been beheaded ( I have the head ends)) , a couple of elephants, 2 ducks, a parrot and a cockeral.... and they all have the same eye. The crow has a bulbous , stuck on afterwards eye, not a muranoeee eye.... does any of this make sense , or am I a  rambling fool :-/  Had a look at some Marcolin Ronneby Konstglas though, and I think you are absolutely correct!!!....I found a fish with 'feathers' the glass and bubbles seem  identical, and a small duck with very similar 'feathers' in a different colour... apparently (I read this bit ) not all thier pieces where signed. Shame tho, Im a pencil artist, I have hundreds of pieces out there in the big wide world... I'd hate any one of them to not have a signature, it would feel like I let them out without thier collars on ... to get lost!  somehow its sad that so many beautiful glass pieces can never be attributed to an individual, for the sakes of two minutes with an engraving tool !  . Never mind, he's not for sale.... thank you sooo much for your help and advice.... now Ive had a look at some other pieces, and now (thanks to you) I know what to look for... I think Mr.Crow/raven could do with some brothers and sisters from the same factory... but I bet I cant find another at a car boot for £3 .... :-)

[flying free]

Is the base highly polished?  If not it's possible maybe it might have been made by Cello - which I think are either Chinese or Indian made glass.  I'm not sure.
There is a thread here on those type of birds  although the original poster put his pictures on an external hosting site and they have now been removed... again.  So they aren't there to view any more.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,43525.msg242803.html#msg242803
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[Artifarti]

Thank you! ... I have had a read through that thread....  and looked for some cello, but nothing I can find looks close (lots of music articles tho!) my boy has a VERY nicely polished bottom ! he also has a great weight for his size, and a real quality feel.... Ive accidently aqquired a few fakes along the way, and you know the minute you hold them, that they are 'not right' !!I was saying , that I had found a marcolin ronneby fish, that had the identicle 'feathering' in the glass, and was the exact same colouring.... So I think Im happy that he's an unsigned (sadly) marcolin.  I sell other bits of glass .....and seem to be good at finding it, but this particular bird, Im really fond of, so his value is of no interest, he's staying at home with me... however ...Im now really interested to find other pieces with the same pedigree !!!!
thanks again :-)
Sue

[vidrioguapo]

I don't mean to be rude, but is that really a polished base/bottom?  It looks flat and unpolished on my screen, with a matte finish?

[flying free]

I suppose this one is not quite the same but the shape is - I believe these are Chinese.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BEAUTIFUL-BLACK-AND-WHITE-STRIPED-GLASS-BIRD-/271180639468?nma=true&si=e447Of30ZdzIJI0EiiWjsE6X0jE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
I also don't think the base of your bird is highly polished and shiny. If it were it would be see-through.  But I could be wrong, it might just be the light of your photo reflecting
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[Artifarti]

Ah ha ! ....now it would seem that he has a chinese accent, because that bird does look VERY similar, ( and actually I really like it) the beak has a similar shape as well !this morning I was convinced that he ate a lot of pickled herring, now it would appear, its chow mein for his tea, with poppadoms !!! The bottom is polished.... but I took those photos in the dark... so my flash went berserk... do the chinese/indian peeps make things with that stunning feathering tho ? .... exciting and complicated this glass thing isn't it?  Ive never really thought about it until I went to sell a few bits off (I know my murano horses, and thats about it ) just had a look around the house.. and a weird little bird that was stuck in a corner, and cost 20p is a signed wedgewood.... Im having such fun !!! ...
Thanks for the link, I'll have another go at the birds bottom , without flash... I would still love to know if the 'feathers' are common to asian pieces?...
kindest regards
Sue