Topic: Old or new,frilly vase..

[keith]

Think this is quite new,Murano maybe?i.d please,Keith

[TxSilver]

I see these attributed to Murano often, but I believe they are either Czech or British. Did you buy it from a store? I wondered how you know that it is new. I've seen this type of pattern in many vintage pieces.

[keith]

Got it from an 'antique' warehouse,nothing about its age or origin,about 7/8 years ago,think you are right it just looks 'Murano' ,it has that newish feel,ta,Keith.

[Lustrousstone]

Old and Bohemia I think

[obscurities]

Would it be possible to get a large image of the underside?  I would like to see that before making a comment as to attribution. Also, is the upper rim ground and polished, or just ground. A closeup of the glass in the upper "bowl" would be great also.

Craig

[keith]

As requested,top and bottom,hope this helps

[obscurities]

I agree with Christine...  IMHO  Old for sure, and Bohemian in origin.  4 layers of casing combined with the foot style would, IMO take it out of Italian range and place it to pre WWI Bohemia.  Mold blown with this style of applied decor would lead me to suspect Kralik as a maker.

[TxSilver]

I am glad to read that it is probably Bohemian. I had thought this pattern was Bohemian, maybe Kralik, until I saw similar pieces IDed as Stourbridge. There is a lot of confusion between Bohemian and British glass.

[obscurities]

I remember reading, although I do not remember where, that some workers migrated fairly early from Bohemian production to English. If this is accurate it would help to explain some of the striking similarities that lead to some incorrect attributions. There is, I think, (I was guilty of it myself if you see my opalescent vase post) a fairly common and widespread misconception that a lot of the footed vases with this style of applied foot are English in origin.

I realized several years ago that this was not correct, but for some reason never applied my new found information to the Kralik piece I was still researching as English.

To me the color combination in the glass (forget the foot and the applied decor) just say Bohemian quite clearly.

I think there is most likely a fair number of early attributions, that if viewed in the light of today's knowledge would end up being credited to Bohemian production and not English. 

Truitt's Bohemian Glass 1880-1940  shows quite a few examples of Kralik production with applied decor distributed by Hosch that, IMHO could pretty easily be seen as English without the knowledge provided by the publication of that book.

Craig

[keith]

Thanks to all,I have contact with Kralik collector in New York I'll see what he thinks,again ta for all the input,Keith