Topic: Not Dugan - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik Glue Chip

[Mac]

Here is the link to my blog with the details:

http://bohemianglasscollector.blogspot.com/

I thought it was Dugan but I have been told it is not. Thoughts?

Thanks,

Mac

[Mac]

I have a working ID - Kralik Glue Chip.
Mac

[obscurities]

Hi Mac,

Absolutely glue chip by Kralik. Also referred to on occasion as chipped ice....  I have images of around 40 or 50 different pieces. Dugan pieces are typically not multi-colored as this example is, but mono-chromatic.....  Typically the frit on Dugan pieces is generally a little more granular than the Kralik pieces....

Craig

[Mac]

Craig,

Thanks for replying.

I am now asking all my glass gurus for any information they may have on this line.
Truitt dates the line to the 1930's.

Any other info you or anybody may have would be appreciated.

I like to post as much info as I can on my blog to help new collectors such as myself.

[Lustrousstone]

I think overshot is another term for the technique. Nice one

[obscurities]

Hi Christine,

Overshot is a term applied to the decor also, but as an example, Kralik also did an overshot, and like the Dugan work Mac is referring to, it is more granular in texture, at least when referencing the Kralik line. Most Kralik over shot typically exhibits vertical striping in the decor.  They are believed to have produced a more random overshot also. I am including a couple of images of examples. An early random overshot, and also a vertically striped piece. Their overshot decor is typically earlier than the "chipped ice" / "glue chip decor".  

Mac,

As far as time line goes, in the absence of factory records, I would say, based on shapes the decor can be found in the the decor may predate WWI and continue to the late 30's. It can be found on some earlier forms, and also on some Deco era shapes. They also did a Deco era variation of the decor, with a similar coloring appearance but with a clear cased surface instead of the textured surface the clue chip has. I am attaching an earlier form, and also a later Deco era form. The shape of the handled piece appears when Kralik started doing their fabulous Deco era cased glass work. Although the chipped ice is found with a post WWI acid stamp, I am not really aware of examples of overshot with those types of marks....  that is not to say they are not out there....

Hope this helps,

Craig

[Mosquito]

Overshot is a different technique than glue chip, overshot glass is when the gather is covered with small fragments/ splinters of broken glass which are then reheated to fuse them to the surface. Glue chipping, in contrast is where the surface of the cooled piece is roughened then coated with a hide glue which then contracts, pulling fine splinters/ slivers from the surface and often giving a feathered effect. A similar finish can also be achieved using an acid paste with mica. The vase in the link looks like it might be overshot rather than glue chipped, though different textures can be achieved depending on how either technique is implemented. For comparison I've attached some photos of a Kralik glue chipped bowl showing the surface texture.

Steven

[Mac]

Thanks Craig for the info and to everyone else. I appreciate your time.
Mac
http://bohemianglasscollector.blogspot.com/

[obscurities]

Hi Steven,

Thanks for the images you posted. I have handled some pieces like the example that Mac posted and I am wondering if they are not two different decors. I am not familiar enough with the different surface textures that can be achieved using the technique you described, but I know that there is a version of this look that is actually more like a fine granular surface that has been refired, than a surface texture with the feathering that you have posted an image of. One observation I would make is that the piece you have posted, and also the example of glue chip on Alfredo's site have glass which is rather translucent. The pieces with the more granular surface I have handled seem to be a more opaque vessel with similar coloration. That is also true of most of the images I have in my photo archives.

Can the glue chip technique achieve a granular surface, or could this simply be an example of a much finer overshot technique?

Mac,

Would it be possible for you to take a macro shot of the surface of the vase to show the texture detail similar to Steven's last image?

Craig

[Lustrousstone]

As a scientist I don't think glue chip could achieve granules, as it's pulling glass off the surface (i.e., "chipping" it off) rather than adding chips onto it. Sort of like battuto without the hammering. Mac's is a raised surface not an indented one.