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Author Topic: Large deep dish with decoration painted on the underside ... ?  (Read 964 times)

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Offline NKP

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Large deep dish with decoration painted on the underside ... ?
« on: February 11, 2010, 02:22:37 PM »
... intriguing piece: heavy bowl of glass with a greenish tint, smooth upper surface and textured surface on the underside. Rim dented at (almost) regular intervals. Painted on the underside - in accordance with texture  of the surface - with red flowers and blue curly lines with a green dot in the middle. covered with tiny particles of gold/ copper paint (?).

Diameter: 44 cm.
Height: 10 cm.

Any ideas ?

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Re: Large deep dish with decoration painted on the underside ... ?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 08:32:02 PM »
 :huh: any thoughts ?

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Re: Large deep dish with decoration painted on the underside ... ?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 11:37:26 PM »
Is it enamelled rather than painted? The glittery bits certainly look fused to the surface.

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Re: Large deep dish with decoration painted on the underside ... ?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 01:26:13 PM »
Is it enamelled rather than painted? The glittery bits certainly look fused to the surface.

... probably "enamelled" would be a better description, at least for the gold flecks. I presume they were scattered around in the mould which has had te be used for this piece. Still makes me wonder how the red, blue and green is applied, much more so since for instance the green dots all are covered with a piece of gold/copper.

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Re: Large deep dish with decoration painted on the underside ... ?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 02:52:45 PM »
I cannot see where you are - but we find this type of dish in Holland quite frequently. One reason is that similar items were used as premiums with washing powder in the 1950s. The technique is slumping flat glas in a mould with the pattern preshaped in wire. The technique was suitable for very short production runs, so suitable for premiums and occasional glass. I have one celebrating the complete electrification of the railways in 1953.
There is no documentation which tells us whodunnit. Could be Maastricht or Leerdam, or could be made in Germany or Belgium. But probably not much further afield...

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Re: Large deep dish with decoration painted on the underside ... ?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2010, 03:08:14 PM »
...  :clap: :clap: :clap:

I knew I had seen a similar item but although delving deep into my memory I could not find it until you mentioned the railways dish ( http://www.nationaalglasmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorixbeeld&view=record&Itemid=25&id=gla:col1:dat15108&tstart= ) which is the exact technique, with similar indentations on the rim, only without any use of color.

Thanks Ivo !

(by the way: how much washing powder did you have to buy to get 3.5 kg. of glass ?  ;))

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