Topic: two green figured vases for sale - anyone know what they are? (Dartington?)

[jakgene]

Ebay item 170456319328.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PAIR-of-DARTINGTON-glass-vases-THROWER-12-TALL_W0QQitemZ170456319328QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Art_Glass?hash=item27affd0560


Have seen these advertised before - in my opinion this piece has not been described correctly. - does anyone know what they are though - I do rather like them?

JAK
West Oz

[glassobsessed]

By chance I happen to know this seller, we discussed these vases on Saturday. I also don't know who made them, they are not marked unlike a lot of the more recent Dartington production which often had a small etched D on the bottom. In defence of his somewhat shaky attribution, Dartington have made a lot of stuff in the recent past that I have never seen before and I have been surprised at their output on a number of occasions. Saying that though, I still don't think they were made by Dartington.

I believe another of these vases was bought last year by a board member who was not best pleased (thinking it was Dartington if I remember correctly).

So to sum up, no nearer to an id....

John

[jakgene]

Thanks John. appreciate the comments.

I have a small collection of Dartington/Thrower designs, and these just don't look like his. I wondered if perhaps scandinavian? The flower design has that sort of look to me - not that I am any expert in any way
Anyway - Although I like them  I doubt I'll be bidding anyway - the size and weight of them would cost me an arm and a leg for postage! Have just been quoted 20 pounds postage for a wedgwood elephant - dread to think what these vases would be! 

Just curious - and trying to educate myself. Thanks again.

regards

JAK
West Oz

[Lustrousstone]

Surface mail would be cheaper for the elephant if you are prepared to wait. (A good guide to surface mail costs is to double the first class UK cost and add a couple of £)

[glassobsessed]

I think these are quite modern (a hunch), they are not that well finished around the rim and could have been made almost anywhere. Nice decorative vases but not particularly practical for flowers as they are very tall and quite thin.

Re postage from GB to Oz (and anywhere abroad), there is a sudden price explosion when a package exceeds 2kg. A package up to 2kg costs a little over £23 (pounds GB) to send via Royal Mail (airmail), you can double that for 2.1 kg and then it just keeps going up and up. There are alternatives for heavier packages but I have yet to find one cheaper. If using surface mail you may have to wait for two months and you do not save that much money.

John

[jakgene]

Thnanks John and Christine

Have bought a few particularly heavy items in the past and had them sent sea mail. took 14 weeks I think. All arrived okay eventually though. But I am like a kid when I buy glass - Iwant it NOW! Also the ebay iem doesn't stay up as long as the mail takes, so feedback doesn't get left - and I only realised to keep a record  of the seller with seamail after the first one  - I wouldn't have known who I bought it from if it had never arrived.

there is also an amazing variety of prices on the same items - I have collected the same caithness vase (Spinningdale bottle vase) in several colours. For identical weight items I have been charged between 6 and 15 pounds. I f I want it enough I don't argue - if I dont want it that much I don't bid! seems to be to do with "small packet rate" is much cheaper but not everyone uses it - not sure of the rules on it though.
regards

JAK

[glassobsessed]

Similar kinda thing here http://luxin-homedecor.en.made-in-china.com/product/HqFQVwbvAxia/China-Glass-Vase-LXW3416-GG04-.html

John

[MarkHill]

Hello,
These are 100% NOT Dartington, nor a Frank Thrower design. I had been told they were around 7 years ago, as many thought they were, but further research for my book with Frank's daughter Eve cleared that one up. I know I have come across these before, but I simply can't remember right now. I thought it was better to post a negative rather than spend some days, weeks, whatever, finding my notes as to the positive...probably a 'brain fart', but were they Jones & Co.?
Thinking on...
Mark

[Andy]

My brains also working in a strange way, i remembered this from an earlier post,
http://luxin-homedecor.en.made-in-china.com/product/WbdJhxqjHQDt/China-Glass-Vase-LXW3418-GG04-.html

about chinese glass, now ive found it , i know they are completely different, but i thought id post it anyway

Worth thinking about? or not ? 
Cheers
Andy
 

[MarkHill]

Always worth thinking about, but I really don't think they're contemporary Chinese. First-off why produce them in such a dull colour?
I've seen them in a book somewhere. Davidson, Jones....the cogs are turning...very slowly.... and alas I'm away from my library.
M.