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Author Topic: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?  (Read 2947 times)

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Offline Andy

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Re: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2010, 10:24:08 AM »
The base of A Val st Lambert 1930s vase.
"Born to lose, Live to win." Ian (Lemmy) Kilmister Motorhead (1945-????)

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Re: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2010, 11:23:48 AM »
Shiona Airlie says definitely not Kirkhill

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Re: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2010, 12:36:56 PM »
Andy, that's the way it is done!  Thanks for the picture. Val St Lambert is an option then.
If only I could see how the Sevres vase looks from the base as it otherwise looks so much alike...
And: I'll have to look very close of any mark when I get back home later this week. I think there isn't.  :-\

Lustrousstone: thank you for checking ! :)
I think we are closing France then... and I may have to settle with that. 

Anyway, I am very happy to be able to put it somewhere in the map and timeline would be around 50- more like 60's I guess.

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Re: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2010, 12:51:42 PM »
VSL is in Belgium  ;D
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Re: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2010, 01:00:14 PM »
The bottom finish is the glassmaker's choice but I would not draw any conclusions from it. These double finishes were routinely used in all Dutch factories, in Belgium, in France and by several works in Sweden. I could also imagine a similar technique being used in Germany and in England...

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Re: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2010, 01:24:38 PM »
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in Germany and in England...
In Germany by WMF and England by Whitefriars, just for example

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Re: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2010, 03:43:08 AM »
I am learning ! :) Thanks for your patience all.  ::) 
I want to say I am surprised and really appreciate you people in this forum who are willing to share your knowledge and expertise in this area.

And for this piece - it's just my kind of an example of an object showing how beautiful glass can be and this kind especially backlit. Pls note: from my geographical point of view if I say we are "closing France" -  Belgium, Germany and England aren't very far  ;) ...still I see this object as with a total non-experts eyes as a more French or Belgian one, more than English of German, in style)
Just love it where ever it was made.  :)


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Re: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2010, 04:10:55 PM »
Here's one from France marked Art Vannes on the base. Can't tell from your photos whether they are a match or not, but they share a few features.

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Re: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2010, 12:45:34 PM »
Thank you, John! They do share most of the features, however, not an exact match.
I rechecked mine and there really aren't and haven't been any marks or signatures. Maybe mine is a copy of an Art Vannes one then? Who knows.
Very interesting. Would you know when Art Vannes produced ashtrays of this kind?


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Re: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2010, 06:26:01 AM »
Would you know when Art Vannes produced ashtrays of this kind?

the style was pioneered by Michel Daum in the early 1950s and in production in many works throughout the 1960s. 

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