Topic: Clear, shiny, clumpy and heavy ashtray with dimples, please?

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It is 13 cm in diameter and 5 cm high (= abt 5", 2")
there's a very slight birdbath like thing in the base, with cut edges not matt polished I think.
(please excuse me my poor knowledge of glass terminology.. I am learning)

I've browsed through a million ashtrays, found some around there but not quite. 
Would you be able to help me with this, please? 



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[flying free]

the base looks as though it may be a Czech piece?    but don't quote me on that.  I'm sure someone will be along soon who will know more 

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[Andy]

Nice bowl, Scandinavian a possibility, maybe French,  Sevres or Daum most of these would be signed though.
I think its possible this will always be a 'maybe'
Might be proved wrong
 
Andy

[glassobsessed]

The pattern reminds me of a 'lampbase' I have here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26202.msg144612.html#msg144612

So Kirkhill Glass and John Airlie could be a possibility, where did you find it?

John

[Lustrousstone]

Kirkhill glass all had a faint blue tinge because of the furnace used, so not John Airlie. I will ask his daughter to take a peek though

[px]

Oh my, this is interesting !  :hiclp:

Andy: I am a Finn and somehow doubt the "Scandinavian" guess because I haven't seen anything quite like this before. "French" I could buy, but no signature in this one. Well, it seems there are a lot of possibilities, like at the moment - all of them.   (I would love it to be Czech - "flying free" - but somehow doubt that as the base ring is not matt?)

glassobsessed: I bought this from a fleamarket here in Finland - it seems there are a lot of smaller foreign objects available I suppose they were handy to take home as souveniers. Hard to find for example larger vases which is a pity.
Your lampbase has similarities ! Especially if the dimples are in symmetrical order ? And how about the base finish?

Lustrousstone: Really not even the slightest tint of any colour in this one. But would really appreciate you checking if it is possible.

Also looking forward to getting any other views from you experts.

[Andy]

I think you mean the base is not like the Czech moulded or pressed glass.
Ive just thought what the base reminds me of, Val St Lambert, it looks like theres lots of wear,
VSL often signed the base on the outside rim of the base , and it gets lost
in the scratches, have a close look. Of course, they also didnt sign everything either 
Cheers
Andy

[Lustrousstone]

To me it looks like the base has been ground twice. Once to get rid of the pontil scar, which created the circular indent, and then a second time to give a nice flat base rim. Bases on Czech hot-worked pieces are often flat ground and shiny. This may be way off beam but it's not Whitefriars is it?

[px]

Thanks again
As much (or little, actually) as I understand the terminology, Lustrousstone, I believe that's exactly how the base was made !And I believe the base is an important clue here.

Andy: I have browsed around (googled "cendrier en cristal" )  and I think Sevres is very close, or France at least ! Altough there unfortunately aren't many pictures found of the bases I think I saw some with a rounded base like in mine and not a flat one like in most of the others' (which are usually quite scratched so one might guess a flat base even from a picture from above)

I found this vase with a lot of similarity:  http://www.cite-antiquaires.fr/fr/familles.html?prod_page=3&prod_id=9086&fam_id=31
what do you think?  Unfortunately there's not much information of it...

[glassobsessed]

Here are some more photos of the Kirkhill lampbase's base and pattern.

France also sounds like a strong possibility for your ashtray, my mum has one which is similar, I think made by Art Vannes. I will be able to get some photos of it next Monday.

John