Topic: Large goblet, possibly antique or Georgian???

[WhatHo!]

What Ho! Can any one tell the age, the name of this type of glass or who may have made this glass. It is 5 5/8" tall, 4 1/4" across the top and 3 3/8" across the foot. It has ring of natural wear, mould blown body, striation, lead crystal and a snapped pontil, thanks in advance.

[peejyweejy]

 I would like to say this is a Georgian pan top rummer glass. But I am no expert - very keen on this type of glass and still have lots to learn.

I think it might be an idea to ask a moderator to change the title to include antique or Georgian???

[WhatHo!]

Yes, please change the title if necessary.
Well that sounds great, i found 4 in a charity shop! can any one confirm this?

[peejyweejy]

I'm not saying they definitely are - I'm a relative beginner myself. We need Bernard really - he'll know. Fingers crossed.

I'm sure a moderator will read this soon and hopefully tweak the title.

[Bernard C]

...   We need Bernard really - he'll know.   ...

Sorry, PJ, you've got it wrong there — I don't know how to positively ID Georgian and early Victorian glass (except for Silesian stemmed salvers, a skill recently acquired from GMB members).

Steve & PJ — What I do know a little about is how to ID some of Walsh and other manufacturers' deceptive repro, of which there is a fair amount about, as I deal in it occasionally, because of an increasing number of both collectors and people buying it to use.   I am not at all sure about your goblet, Steve, and wouldn't like to venture an opinion.

What this topic needs is a contribution from an authority experienced in early glass.

Bernard C.  

[peejyweejy]

Thanks Bernard for having a look, it's so difficult to attribute this type of glass, but I felt if I had a go, I would learn so much when corrected and I have.

Walsh repro - so are we talking 1930 ish?

Many thanks
Pauline

[peejyweejy]

Bernard..I have a couple of tiny liquor or port glasses of a similar design. What do you think of these???

[oldglassman]

HI ,
            Having had a look I think I would stick my neck out and say this is an early 19thc rummer 1820/40 ish , the texture of the glass and what i can see of the striations and the base wear would support this , the later repros I have seen are to my eye much more bright in the metal and also thinner in the metal ,unfortunately  like most glass the final answer is really only when its held in the hand but on balance i would say this is not a repro .

Cheers ,
                Peter.

[chopin-liszt]

 

Fascinating, John.  :thup:
I have to confess,    I thought it was a "greasy spoon" Knickerbocker Glory glass!
I am a complete ignoramus about this sort of thing.

[Cathy B]

Thanks, Peter! Was hoping you'd drop by to help out.

Pauline, could you please post your glasses as a new query? They are quite different and could confuse the people. I'll delete your post from this thread afterwards. Also, you may have misunderstood Bernard's reply. I think he indicated that he wasn't sure about Steve's piece, not that it's Walsh (or any other) repro.