Thankx Guys 'N Girls, am going off the board now to do some much-needed PC practice! GLASS is no probs, we should stick to just THAT, as for these PC's? They are all naff to get to grips with! Unlike a Whitefriars Banjo, but that's another story. Will wait for your email Paul and my C.V is in the post! Rouge may not be your colour, but forgot to mention the polishing benefits of Max Factor :spls: night-night all to you HERE 'til 2morro. Jazz