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Offline blowing_bubbles

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Could anyone help we describe this Deco vase please
« on: April 25, 2010, 01:55:57 PM »
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Hello all, New today to this board. Looks really interesting.

I have a nice little vase that was my great Aunts. I have seen similar styles but would like to identify it. It has the original frog  :mrgreen:  Pleased with myself as I had no idea that was what it was called until an hour ago !   I would like to know a little more about and it's possible collectable interest and likely value. There are no markings, frog is complete but chips to one area. I will try to load a picture here. Any help appreciated. Vase is more pink than the pic makes it look

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Re: Could anyone help we describe this Deco vase please
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 02:23:19 PM »
Hi, welcome to the board,

No idea on this one, it's a pattern I've seen before, but as far as I'm aware the maker is still unkown. It might do better moved to the main glass forum as I doubt it is British. I think it's more likely to be continental in origin, possibly Czech, but I wouldn't rule out Poland or Yugoslavia....

Steven :)

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Re: Could anyone help we describe this Deco vase please
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 02:43:50 PM »
thanks Steven,

Having googled deco pressed glass, I thought it looked similar to Bagley, Jobling or Sowerby. Would those makes always have makeres marks on their pieces ? Thanks

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Re: Could anyone help we describe this Deco vase please
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 03:38:48 PM »
Hello,me again,not all pieces are marked some just say made in England others have registration numbers which can be difficult to see,try running your fingers around the base or inside,if possible,sometimes you can feel them,
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Re: Could anyone help we describe this Deco vase please
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 04:00:57 PM »
Thanks Keith, No luck I'm afraid, seems to be unmarked. 

It has a soft satin feel and look to it and inside at the top corners there seems to be a slight build up a residue which is whitish and does scrape off. I obviously don't want to damage it. Does anyone have a magic solution for cleaning this sort of glass ?  Many thanks

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Re: Could anyone help we describe this Deco vase please
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2010, 06:56:25 PM »
Hello b-b  -   although I am unable to really help, if Keith and Steven have suggested possibly not British, then you may care to look at Pamela's wonderful selection of images.   Just a thought, especially as these guys have mentioned continental.
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de - my collection and some friends' glasses
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de - my friends' collection of glass catalogues

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Re: Could anyone help we describe this Deco vase please
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2010, 06:58:30 PM »
thanks Steven,

Having googled deco pressed glass, I thought it looked similar to Bagley, Jobling or Sowerby. Would those makes always have makeres marks on their pieces ? Thanks

It's definitely not Jobling & I'm 99% sure it's neither Bagley nor Sowerby.

Re. makers marks, a great deal of this type of glass is unmarked. Jobling registered most (but not all) of their 1930s art glass designs, meaning many will have a moulded reg. no. or 'regn. applied for' mark, though there are exceptions. Some of their opalescent output was additionally signed with an engraved mark "Jobling's" "Opalique". Sowerby is certainly not always marked, though some is marked with a reg. no. & earlier patterns may have the moulded peacock's head trade mark. Quite a few Bagley pieces (but again, not all) I've handled have been marked 'Made in England' near the base, while others which were registered will have the appropriate number in the mould.

Really the best way to identify this type of thirties decorative glass is to learn the common patterns. A good starting point is Pamela Wessendorf's excellent site www.pressglas-pavillon.de For Bagley patterns you can search the collection at the Waskefield Museum site here: http://www.wakefieldmuseums.org/modes_holdingpages/modes_knottingley_glass.html The collection is not exhaustive however, if you're really interested in Bagley then it's worth investing in Angela's book, available here: http://www.glass-time.com/orderbagleyglassbook.html

For Jobling, the best book is Baker & Crowe's A Collectors Guide to Jobling 1930s Decorative Glass This has been out of print for years, however & is quite expensive to buy if you can find it. I have also some galleries of pieces from my collection here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kingofbananas/sets/72157622557471351/ & here: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=56

For Sowerby, the best resource is Glen Thistlewood's Sowerby CDs, available here: http://www.thistlewoods.net/Sowerby-e-Books.html

Finally Black Poppy's site has some nice photos of thirties glass here: http://www.black-poppy.co.uk/

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Re: Could anyone help we describe this Deco vase please
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 06:42:02 AM »
If your residue scrapes off then frosted glass comes to no harm with a scourer or a cream cleaner. Don't use them on any other glass though. If you're worried try it on the bottom if its frosted.

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Re: Could anyone help we describe this Deco vase please
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 08:42:37 AM »
Also, the white residue might just be limescale. If so, then any limescale remover should work. Personally I've found Lidl's W5 limescale remover to work very well, though there are many other brands available, usually based on citric acid. Just apply & scrub the area with a toothbrush or similar. If it is scale, then you'll see bubbles form when it reacts with the acid. You could also try white vinegar, this being acidic, should also help.

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Re: Could anyone help we describe this Deco vase please
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 09:06:32 AM »
Thanks guys for excellent answers and pointers above. As a Newbie I am very impressed.

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