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Blue vase with dots, czech?
« on: June 03, 2010, 07:24:25 AM »
It was sold to me as possibly czech. Seller thought it might be an '80s piece - I have nothing to reference it with so far. I love it! Didn't pay much because a few condition problems at the base and the rim. The blue (very thin layer, as you can see at the rim where the layer is chipped a bit) is encased in clear glass, the round bits are actually polished inwards for optical effect, and the opaque bits are created by a thin layer of something semi transparant that doesn't look like the other satinated glass pieces I have.

Measurements: 25.7 cm high, rim and base 6 cm at the widest and 5.2 at the smallest.

Any help appreciated, as usual,

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Re: Blue vase with dots, czech?
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2010, 02:42:48 PM »
I'm bumping this one, maybe it's not Czech, any other speculation as to origin? German wouldn't surprise me...
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Re: Blue vase with dots, czech?
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 04:10:19 PM »
Try Beranek  http://www.beranekglass.com/default.aspx?lang=EN&btnNum=5
Nice piece shame about the damage.
I have quite a few of these as I used to retail them Sadly they are not around anymore but the websites are still up and well worth having a trawl through.
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Re: Blue vase with dots, czech?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2010, 09:38:38 PM »
Thanks Mike. Do you mean you used to have Beranek glasswork pieces around and this reminds you of them, or that you specifically had this type of vase around, acquired from that particular source?

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Re: Blue vase with dots, czech?
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 10:56:38 PM »
Hi Astrid.
Yes is the answer to both your questions.
I still have around 40 pieces. I will get round to selling them one day but until then its nice to look at them.
I visited the factory in the Czech Republic on several occasions. It was amazing how they used to work. Once the government took away all the subsides they used to give all the Glass factories they just couldn't survive.
I now and have for a long time dealt purely with Richard Golding art glass see www.abfabglass.co.uk
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Re: Blue vase with dots, czech?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2010, 05:07:57 AM »
Astrid, it might be worth a trawl through the Glass Forest website - they had a lot of Beranek when I was over there last: http://www.glassforest.co.uk/
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Re: Blue vase with dots, czech?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2010, 06:10:20 AM »
Thank you Mike! There certainly are some recent Beranek pieces that resemble this type of vase a lot (though this exact one isn't listed). I'll comfortably attribute it to Beranek glassworks, with some uncertainty about date (80s to comtemporary). I know I'm pushing my luck, but you wouldn't happen to know any designer that did this type of vase?

And thanks for the link, Anne. Good to see a source for contemporary Czech glass.

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Re: Blue vase with dots, czech?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2010, 04:21:44 PM »
This is not Beranek
nor Beranek Glassworks from Skrdlovice -
http://picasaweb.google.cz/Jindra8526/BeranekGlassworks?authkey=Gv1sRgCOvIkvmg7-zidA# either
Glass Studio Beranek from Zdar
http://picasaweb.google.cz/Jindra8526/JiriBeranekZdarNadSazavou?authkey=Gv1sRgCN_c6sfo24WqmQE#).

Both glassworks are closed now.

This piece is not produced by Princ from Zdar - 
http://www.princglass.com/index_en.aspx and not
by Svoboda from Karlov
http://www.ags-svoboda.cz/art_cut.html.

I would say, that this piece is not Czech.


Mike's comment to Czech glass production is very simplifying and not exact and definitely not valid for all glassworks in country.

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Re: Blue vase with dots, czech?
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2010, 05:47:51 PM »
It appears I could be wrong but I dont mind being educated.
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Re: Blue vase with dots, czech?
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 08:56:23 PM »
Jindrich, I respect your expertise as always - but I'm still trying to get a better feel for where this vase belongs...

I do observe that some of the design elements that are used in this vase seem to be present in the links you've provided. The Beranek and the Princ catalogues for instance have semi-cylindrical style vases that are round on opposite sides, and cut flat on the other opposite sides like this one. Some of these have small round lenses cut out. And the colours blank and blue are commonly used in these type of vases. Other elements, like the semi transparant layer, seems to be missing.

It may not be Czech, as you say, but other than perhaps German the Czech style elements fit more closely than any other region I could think of - unless it's an attempt by a modern factory (China perhaps?) to produce something Czech-like in this style. My questions: has anyone seen non-Czech factories anywhere anytime use these kind of style elements? I know the Chinese copy a lot of Murano elements, and Ikea likes to borrow Scandinavian design elements - but have they tried Czech elements as well?

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