Topic: Mid 19th century opaline vase with ruffled rim & blue pineapple knop?

[glassobsessed]

Out of my comfort zone here as you can probably tell from the title of this thread.

Trying to id this vase, it's a little over 22cm tall with a snapped pontil mark, a folded and 'ruffled' rim and then there is the blue pineappley moulded bit too. It glows under UV light and there is a fair amount of ash or frit in the glass, not a high quality item.

My guess is Empoli but I'm floundering....

Thanks,
John

[Ivo]

Not Empoli - you'd sooner have to look in the direction of mid-19th century French Opaline, perhaps Valerysthal, perhaps Saint Louis, perhaps even Baccarat.

[Lustrousstone]

Which bit glows?    Looks related to my urn thingy. Scroll down http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2220.0.html

[glassobsessed]

That's interesting Ivo, my first thought on seeing it was "is it Opaline" and I wondered about early 20th century (but not any earlier) but when I saw it in daylight it didn't look like Opaline to me. Not that I have much (read any) experience of handling that kind of glass. I will have a nose around this week and see what emerges.

The 'white' sections of glass glow Christine, but very faintly - not a strong reaction to UV, this photo was taken with the fluorescent tube right next to the glass otherwise there would be nothing to see. I see what you mean about your urn thingy too.

John

[antiquerose123]

Does Christine thingy had sharper (diamond shape) knobs than yours -- or is it my eyes?  Is your knobby things look more bumpy and circular ?

Just a question...as I washed out all the sleep from my eyes now   

[Lustrousstone]

Mine's got ribs not knobs. That's not uranium John - too palely green. My green bit glows really bright green. Both have the same roughish pontil mark though.

[glassobsessed]

Cheers Christine, not Empoli, not uranium, how wrong can my description get?

Hopefully it IS a high quality item...

John

[Lustrousstone]

Oh yes, look at Ivo's answer.

[glassobsessed]

After having had a little nose around the net I think Ivo is on the right track (thanks Ivo). Can't pin down a maker yet but in terms of style mid 19th century looks good, I've now seen a few items which share features with the vase.

The vase is not Uranium but it is Opaline and it feels quite heavy for it's size so probably "demi-crystal", which would fit. Will try and get some more photos of it tomorrow.

All my books cover 20th century glass, sadly I have nothing on the 19th century.

Can a moderator change the title to something more appropriate? Thanks.


John

[Glasshound]

This is Sandwich glass (U.S.) circa 1850-1870....

/Blair