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Offline keith

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Whitfriarish tumbler?
« on: September 17, 2010, 06:21:37 PM »
4 inches high,polished pontil mark and what looks like 'kingfisher blue :huh:

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Re: Whitfriarish tumbler?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 12:10:08 AM »
Keith

If I'd found this tumbler I'd not be thinking Whitefriars, but rather further north in the confines of Stourbridge ;) Therefore kingfisher would not be the colour name either....... :huh: Without being able to really see the moulded wave design properly I'd be thinking Thomas Webb; not sure its an S&W colour (or pattern), but certainly used by Webb.

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Re: Whitfriarish tumbler?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 12:47:49 AM »
Thanks Nigel,did consider a more local firm but thought the wave looked more WF's than Webbs,have included another pic',ta,Keith.

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Re: Whitfriarish tumbler?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 04:39:55 AM »
Keith — The Greater Stourbridge glassworks were probably too small individually to support a full mouldmaking shop in the same way as the huge glassworks in the north.   So moulds were likely to have been obtained from a specialist mouldmaker, either to order, or possibly ex-stock for popular patterns.   Also moulds were traded and/or swapped, and we have firm evidence of this taking place both within the UK and internationally (certainly between England and Germany in the 1920s–30s).   So, for a fairly popular pattern, more evidence is needed than the pattern itself for a definite attribution.

I had a handled mug in this pattern through my hands about three or four years ago, and that carried the Webb acid stamp, so, as Nigel says, Webb is most likely.

You will find a useful and comprehensive illustrated list of Webb dip mould patterns, with approximate dates of introduction, in Hajdamach I.

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Re: Whitfriarish tumbler?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 10:28:10 AM »
Thanks Bernard,most grateful for the info'
                                               Keith.

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Re: Whitfriarish tumbler?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2010, 05:58:45 PM »
What Ho! I have to agree with Nigel. I put one of these but in brown on Whitefriars.com 'Isit' section a few years ago and got a negative rebuff. The smallest of this type WF made was 6", the waves are too droopy and I also don't like the large size of the pontil. Wolfie
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