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Alabastro elephant - maker?
« on: September 18, 2010, 10:13:49 AM »
Hi All

I have just bought this lovely little chap ;D

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/EnglishPorcelain/Elephant?feat=directlink

I am looking for clues on maker/date. He stands just 3.5" or 8.5 cm to the top of his trunk, but is beautifully detailed (lost I'm afraid to some extent on my photos).

Thanks

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Re: Alabastro elephant - maker?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 11:03:43 AM »
He IS nice, Hazel.
I'm not sure that he's not Jadite rather than alabastro, though. Somebody who knows better than me is needed.
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Re: Alabastro elephant - maker?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 11:37:15 AM »
...I'm not sure he's even glass!   :huh:  Do you think he might be carved from semi-precious stone?

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Re: Alabastro elephant - maker?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 11:54:30 AM »
If you look carefully at the second image, blown up, you can see there are bubbles in it, Max.
I do think it's glass, (but I also know the little carved animals you're talking about, and can see where you're coming from - the whole shape, with all the detail, is quite remarkable for a glass item)
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Re: Alabastro elephant - maker?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 12:17:58 PM »
These are very nice Oriental elephants. I believe they are jadite glass from China. I see a lot of them and think they are so pretty.
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Re: Alabastro elephant - maker?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2010, 01:00:15 PM »
Is it possible he's been made by one of the exceptional makers such as Liuligongfan or (is it?) Titot, using their Pate-de-verre technique? The technique has been very refined, often resulting in perfectly clear glass items of stunning beauty.

http://www.liuli.com/en-us/pata_de_verre.aspx

http://www.liuliusa.com/
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Re: Alabastro elephant - maker?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2010, 02:54:51 PM »
Right...so maybe pate-de-verre?  Edit:  Just realised Sue's mentioned that.  I'm useless on this thread!  ::))   

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Re: Alabastro elephant - maker?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2010, 03:05:06 PM »
You're never useless, anywhere Max.  :P  - can you remember the name(s?) of the other very high quality Chinese maker(s?) doing this sort of thing?
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Re: Alabastro elephant - maker?
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2010, 04:06:12 PM »
I found this thread which might be of interest...

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,33462.0.html
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Re: Alabastro elephant - maker?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2010, 04:19:43 PM »
Thanks for the replies, I did consider that he might be made of something else but he has a bubble near the bottom of one leg and the soles of his feet appear to be fire polished. However he is a very similar design to the Jadite ones so China would seem quite likely (big area :wsh:).

So if I can get this straight there is jadite stone and jadite glass which is pate-de-verre (makes sense to me that he is made of the latter).

I have just spent three walking round the antiques fair (no goodies found), so it's ten minutes "feet up" with the poodles before dinner for me :phew:
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