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Author Topic: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?  (Read 15157 times)

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Offline chopin-liszt

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Re: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2010, 01:17:27 PM »
Thank you so much for all the info from Hajdamach! (I've only got the recent 20th Century book)

It definitely has deep cutting. I can't swear to copper-wheel engraving, because I don't know how to identify it specifically. I don't know about the extra polishing/worn out extra polishing.

 ;D I've got a wee wind-up LED torch.
I thought I'd try taking pictures beside some normal cut crystal glasses to provide a "quality control" for the image.

I think this has to take a little trip down south to see Basil. There are some water marks which need removed, and a couple of small chips (I think from the same dunt) also a tiny bruise on one shoulder. The stopper has miniscule fleabites around it's base, and sadly, a tiny bit has been knocked off the very tip of it.
And a serious polishing all over?
I don't think it's anything which cannot be fixed, and I think it's going to be worth restoring.
Birmingham is a good way towards Basil, I'm sure I have friends who would take it the last leg of it's journey.
That way, folk can see it and feel it. So much better than even the best images!

Ok, off to fight with the tent again.
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Re: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2010, 01:26:41 PM »
Thank you Claret Jug Collector, I have learnt so much just by reading your posts on this.  Your photography is fantastic and the pieces themselves - just unbelievable and heart stoppingly beautiful!  Now I know why I wasn't particularly interested in British Glass - all the best stuff emigrated long ago!  I have now realised my terrible mistake and am doing a rapid rethink, you have so made me want to learn more!

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Re: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?
« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2010, 01:36:15 PM »
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I can see me lugging it all the way to Birmingham in November!

Is that definite?  :kissy:

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Re: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?
« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2010, 01:36:38 PM »
the pleasure is all mine to be in this forum with all those friendly glass Connaisseurs !
and i hope i will meet many people from here at the glass fair in november !

best wishes, Thomas :or:
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Re: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2010, 01:42:55 PM »
I've found a photo of a John Orchard decanter in Andy McConnell's 'Decanter' book.  There's also a little copied section from a Stevens & Williams catalogue with some of his designs.  From what I can see, the panels on your decanter are similar to those found on a drawing of a vase Orchard designed and the foot looks similar to a couple of vases shown.  I can't see any depiction of grapes but the round fruits on yours look similar to some 'round fruits' (for want of a better term) shown in the drawings.

Sorry it's not much information really!  Shall I photo the page and send to you email?



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Re: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?
« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2010, 01:53:40 PM »
hi max !

probably you mean page 383 - plate 537 -for my opinion its a little different to sue decanter ...
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Re: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?
« Reply #46 on: September 22, 2010, 02:01:27 PM »
mhm .. the more i look at the decanter the more i intend to say it could be a design by frederick carder - the poppy reminds me of my ewer by F.C.....

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Re: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2010, 02:10:27 PM »
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It's not nearly as ornate as that, Thomas!
And I don't think I've got a poppy on it either - I think it's a gooseberry.
There are round sorts of fruits, I don't know if they're peaches or cherries. The other fruits are either figs or pears, lemons or limes, and grapes. The grapes are definitely grapes.

I really, really hope I'm going to be with you in November, Christine.  :-* We're organising Eire dates mid-October to suit, so it just depends if I'm well enough after that.
I'm being very, very good, resting and not overdoing things.

Max, if you have the time and the inclination, I'd love to have a peek at the pics.  :kissy: I've just got the Hollingworth book and I can't find much like this in it.
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Re: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?
« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2010, 02:20:55 PM »
here are the images :-)

Mod:  Sorry, you can't put those photos onto the GMB as they're not your copyright.  It could cause all sorts of problems.
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Re: How does one identify "rock-crystal" glass?
« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2010, 02:24:22 PM »
sue - it looks like a poppy to me .. here is yours :
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Man made the boat for the water, like Noah made the ark
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