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Offline Anik R

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Quite masculine Art-Deco style vase
« on: October 18, 2010, 05:53:43 PM »
Hello,

I need some help identifying this attractive Art-Deco style vase.  I believe I've seen it somewhere before, but now have no idea where.  It's 180mm high and 85mm wide at the top.  The base is completely flat with significant wear.  I don't quite know how to describe the colour -- it's something between a pinkish / light orange / amber shade.  It's rather heavy, weighing almost 1kg.

Thank you.  :)

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Re: Quite masculine Art-Deco style vase
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 06:26:15 PM »
 :hi: Anik
Colour and base look Inwald - Rudolfova - ish, however, no proof

Scandinavia perhaps ? ?  :ooh:
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Re: Quite masculine Art-Deco style vase
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 07:52:01 PM »
beautiful vase Anik :)   Is it possible please, for somone to explain to an ignoramous like me, the reasoning behind the completely flat ground base.   This vase is presumably mould blown (perhaps mechanically), and the plunger perhaps comes down and creates the top more or less as we see it (or is there a little fire polishing at the point?).    Is the base ground flat simply so that it sits evenly on a flat surface.    Usually, a mould blown piece would not need its bottom further treated after leaving the mould  -  and are the mould seams also fire polished out?     Sorry I am ignorant of these technicalities, hope someone has the patience to go slowly with me ;)   Thanks.

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Re: Quite masculine Art-Deco style vase
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 09:58:58 PM »
beautiful vase Anik :)   Is it possible please, for somone to explain to an ignoramous like me, the reasoning behind the completely flat ground base. This vase is presumably mould blown (perhaps mechanically), and the plunger perhaps comes down and creates the top more or less as we see it (or is there a little fire polishing at the point?).  

The vase has been press-moulded, then stuck up to fire polish the rim & mould seams & also to flange the rim slightly. Fire polishing also gives the vase the nice smooth and shiny finish, rather than the slightly rough/ matt finish from the mould. If  done using a punty then the base will have been left rough & hence had to be ground. A lot of pressed glass has a footrim which stands proud, hence only this rim, not the whole base would need grinding, however completely flat bases such as this are not unknown - as Pamela mentioned Inwald made some pieces with this style of base. The fact that the base has then been finely polished, not just ground flat is a nice touch and suggests quality.

Adam D. gave a wonderful account of melting/ fire polishing at Sowerby's which can be found here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,579.0.html

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Re: Quite masculine Art-Deco style vase
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 12:38:39 AM »
 :hi: :hiclp: Very nice Vase Anik -- and I see you and me are finding these Masculine Vases....

 :24: Your masculine vase can get together with the smokey vase of mine that you called Masculine too. 
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,34764.0.html

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from Anik from older, previous post:  Rose, it's a beautiful vase -- quite masculine, sensual... I wonder where it was made?  Is it Scandinavian? Czech?  Italian?  Wish so much I was more knowledgable

I have no idea about your vase -- just I am just guessing ?? 1950/60-ish ??  and if I were to guess (whoops, I am guessing.....lol) I would think something Czech................I dunno, but nice  :thup:
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Re: Quite masculine Art-Deco style vase
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 03:54:46 AM »
Pamela, thank you for the leads.  :kissy:  I would be highly pleased if the vase turned out to be Inwald -- now if we could only find the proof :usd:.  Paul and Steven, my sincerest thanks to the both of you for the questions (which I wouldn't have known how to ask myself) and clear, detailed answer.  I'm all the wiser now.  I do believe the vase has got quality to it.

Anik


P.S. Rose, I do have a thing for what I call 'masculine' pieces -- I don't like dainty, delicate, flowery glass. 

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Re: Quite masculine Art-Deco style vase
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 04:33:39 AM »

P.S. Rose, I do have a thing for what I call 'masculine' pieces -- I don't like dainty, delicate, flowery glass. 

 :thup:    I am too clumsy here  ;D  lol
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Re: Quite masculine Art-Deco style vase
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 06:44:49 AM »
If it's Inwald it's much more likely that its 1930s than 1960s; press moulding became much more automated post War and less manual finishing was required. Base finishing (ground or as moulded) can help (note the can help) to put European pressed glass in the right half of the 20th century, though it doesn't work so well for US pressed glass.

If you look around you can find examples of the exactly same design but with different foot rims. Davidson blackberry is a prime example; you can find them with ground and as moulded foot rims because they were made in different ways.

Here's a Val St Lambert example.

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Re: Quite masculine Art-Deco style vase
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 09:37:49 AM »
Steven - sincere thanks for your prompt reply to my question - very much appreciated - also for the link to Adam D's article which I shall read a little later with my coffee. :)
thanks Christine for the help re dating. :)

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Re: Quite masculine Art-Deco style vase
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2010, 08:44:56 PM »
I found this creamer which looks to be by the same maker as my vase -- http://allegro.pl/antyczek-lososiowy-wielokatny-mlecznik-art-deco-i1315404812.html -- does it look familiar to anyone?  I'm still hoping for an ID.

Thank you  :)

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