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Help needed with possible Monart vase
« on: November 02, 2010, 12:46:25 PM »
I recently bought this unusual vase, it looks and feels very much like Monart, but I can't find the shape in the catalogue pages on Frank's site.

It appears to be colour code 68. The main body of the vase is coloured with splashes of orange and yellow with a few stray redder blobs. The rim shades into a dark reddish brown. The vase stands about 5 1/2 inches (14 cm) high. The pontil mark has been completely ground out & polished and there's a polished ring round the base. The thickness and feel of the glass all point to Monart, but I've not seen this shape before & the pontil finish seems a little unusual.

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Steven

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Re: Help needed with possible Monart vase
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2010, 12:47:13 PM »
A couple more pics:

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Re: Help needed with possible Monart vase
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2010, 02:43:50 PM »
Can you add an oblique shot of the base?

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Re: Help needed with possible Monart vase
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2010, 03:07:32 PM »
Hi Frank,

I've added another base pic as requested - hope this is OK angle. While looking at the vase again I found it has another Monart-like feature, a little stress crack on the inside layer of glass near the rim.

I've also added another pic of the whole vase which I think shows the colours a bit more accurately.

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Re: Help needed with possible Monart vase
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2010, 03:24:25 PM »
I don't think it is Monart, maybe one of the reproductions that appeared in mostly Scottish charity/gift shops in the last 10 years with added wear.

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Re: Help needed with possible Monart vase
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2010, 03:57:09 PM »
Thanks Frank,

I don't think the wear has been added, it looks natural and there's also quite a bit of wear to the interior too which again all looks natural. I've added some more pics below. If not Monart, then I'd certainly think there's a chance it's contemporary with their output, though of course the vase could just have had a hard life.

Either way I think it's quite an interesting piece. I bought it very cheaply; it wasn't being sold as Monart but I felt it had that look. On handling it it does feel right but the shape & pontil seem wrong which was why it's so confusing. The colour is more orangey/ yellow than my photos show, my camera seems to make the vase look a little redder than it is, though the new pics below are closer.

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Re: Help needed with possible Monart vase
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2010, 04:05:55 PM »
Possible alternative is Perthshire paperweights Chic Young.

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Re: Help needed with possible Monart vase
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 01:52:38 PM »
Swapped cameras & finally got the colour looking right....

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Re: Help needed with possible Monart vase
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 02:22:51 PM »
I agree with Frank, but was waiting for him or Nigel or anybody who knows far better than I do, to say something first.  :-[
I know photos don't always give the right impressions of colour, but there's something decidedly newer-looking about it than Monart, and having seen a fair few of the pieces produced more recently, attributed now to Chic Young, I strongly suspected it was one of these.

There's one in the Edinburgh museum (Chambers street) attributed to Monart.
It's a pink and navy rimmed bowl - shape of a soldier's helmet. The colours are a bit wrongly bright, and a bit wrongly splodgy, same as this is.
Cheers, Sue M. (she/her)

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Re: Help needed with possible Monart vase
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2011, 01:52:49 AM »
Bump for millerart  ;)

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