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Art Deco green vase red 'flame' splotches - Schneider
flying free:
A repeat link to the Dr Arthur Traube photograph of the Vineta-Kristall , Josephinenhutte collection c. 1925 and also to information about the Eastman Museum which holds the photograph:
https://www.eastman.org/louis-walton-sipleyamerican-museum-photography-collection
https://collections.eastman.org/objects/26986/arrangement-of-vineta-kristall-josephinenhutte-ag-in-seles;jsessionid=BD57D9CA1EC595889D03DE3C1AFB31CE?ctx=45d0c406-f2bf-4c0c-bd6a-0d8d66506713&idx=22
And Steven, Greg, thank you so much for persevering and remembering this vase. I'd never have found this on my own. Your help is much appreciated.
Greg.:
The Dr Arthur Traube photograph is a great spot, interesting to see a few other examples from the range.
I suspect the difficulty in seeing other examples from the range may be to do with the fact that many have been misattributed in the past. I wonder how many were produced in comparison to WMF Ikora.
The WMF Ikora and Josephinenhutte Vineta-Kristall dates are interesting, also stylistically not that dissimilar to some Monart production of the same period.
Nice to finally know about these pieces.
flying free:
https://www.glasmuseum.de/en/buchbestellung/translate-to-english-josephinenhuette-1900-1950-band-ii/#lightbox[468]-2
https://www.glasmuseum.de/fileadmin/_processed_/a/0/csm_Josephinenh%C3%BCtte_2_-_2009_-_03_9b07e17c90.jpg
I think from Josephinenhutte 1900-1950 Band II - see bottom of left hand page, right hand column:
Some information here (can't read page number clearly enough - so apologies) that discusses the range Vineta-Kristall in connection with 'Erwin' and in the same sentence as referring to 1928 and A Pfohl's departure from Josephinenhutte. So possibly that photograph from Dr Arthur Traube dated c.1925 is more likely dated to later 1920s?
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Translating the information printed there describing the Vineta-Kristall range and using Google translate (very hard to enlarge to read script clearly though!) it appears to say:
'Consisting of numerous colored shapes, melted with flakes and filigree ribbons. This is a mass-colored crystal that, thanks to a special process, imparts seemingly random coloring.'
Quote in German - apologies if incorrect but it is very hard to read:
"bestehende aus farbigen, zahlreichen formen mit Krösel einschmelzen und band filigran. Es handelt sich hierbei um ein in der Masse gefarbtes Kristall dem ein besonderes Verfahren scheinbar regellose Farbwerkungen verleiht"
flying free:
Ta daaah - I think this is the vase I saw identified as WMF in the DK Miller's Art Deco book -
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91UuFyCAYSL._SL1500_.jpg
That page appears in MILLER'S ANTIQUES ENCYCLOPEDIA Hardcover – 3 October 2017
by Judith Miller (Editor)
But I saw it in the Art Deco DK book I believe.
It's the same as a vase in the Josephinenhutte book illustration:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cqwAAOSwp95oD5et/s-l1600.webp
So I was right about it being the same maker as mine - phew :)
flying free:
Nic mentions here Ikora starting in 1926 (I mentioned this vase on that thread):
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,70039.msg390242.html#msg390242
The sparse info I can find says Erwin Pfohl started at Josephinenhutte in 1929. There is no end date. The info from the book I think says he modernised the glassworks and introduced two ranges including Vineta-Kristall. So I don't know how long these were produced for.
Equally I can't find any info about him making glass. I can find info about glass he's enamelled and references to him being a designer.
There is for example this signed enamelled piece - I've seen that same picture of the women and water on another differently shaped clear vase, shaped like an old fashioned oil lamp shade bulbous at thebottom with a straight upright neck, in a museum collection:
https://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/vaza-4-akty-2688/detail/
In all my years of searching I've only come across the Miller's one and the 'Schneider' marked vase that I thought were the same, until Steven pointed out that one on ebay. All four including mine are variations on green and red.
I can imagine they might have been misattributed when selling however I think they are quite unusual.
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