Topic: Art Deco green vase red 'flame' splotches - Schneider

[glassobsessed]

Craig believes the vase in your first link is Kralik rather than Steinwald, given how the Steinwald attributions came about with the rebinding of paperwork I think he has very justifiable doubt. Just ran into that again while looking for Hantich info here on the board - because of the vase in your second link.

[flying free]

I also thought that pink vase was Kralik but assumed, since it seemed to now be on that website as Steinwald, that something might have changed in identification.  Ok, so good to know Craig still thinks it's a Kralik vase. 

I think really early on I thought my vase might be Kralik - pretty sure Craig mentioned it somewhere on the thread as well.  Off to have another read through this thread.

m

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- I secretly think mine might be Czech because I feel sure my Frantisek Koudelka for Prachen vase was somewhat inspired by it somehow
- I also think though I can't be sure, that the thickness of the glass etc could maybe have been a maker such as Hantich (maker of the Johnolyth vases) for example

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m

Oh I mentioned I thought it might be Kralik way back in 2012 on the other thread of this vase:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,31709.msg265241.html#msg265241

hmmm, still in the same place 10 years later 

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I hope     I've been looking into this vase for 12 ? years now.   I've had a look through Ernst Steinwald info because it felt to me as though that might be the lead.  The best comparison is with this large pink vase on the Bohemian glass website but that gives me hope

It's internally decorated, the base seems similar and the rim is firepolished, so it looks to have been created in a similar way to mine.  That's all I've come up with in so many years.

https://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/vaza-vz-101-5388/detail/

oh and these as well:
https://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/vaza-vz-77-4795/detail/

This is another decor of the same shape as the pink one I think.  Just adding in case it becomes useful to me in future:
https://scottishantiques.com/20th-century-glass/art-deco?product_id=21502

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12 long years - still searching.

This one is a similar decor, but addition of crackle which is interesting, and acid etched signature on the base - 'Degue'
https://www.selency.co.uk/product/K8XZTJ38/vase-degue-1.html

Close up of it here:
https://images.selency.com/a9ccaad8-d553-4fa4-b12a-2ec4cf6eaf25/vase-degue-1_original.png?bg_color=FFF&bg=FFF&fit=fill&func=fit&auto=format%2Ccompress&h=1360&meta_format=product_zoom_image&fm=jpg

Mine here in link:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37744.0;attach=100005;image

[Mosquito]

Another vase in a similar style and colourway and presumably from the same maker here on ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/167541003549

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Oh I love that shape as well!  Thanks SO much for spotting it and linking it here.  It's quite a distinctive shape. Same pontil finish as mine I think? i.e. Cracked off, ground/smoothed but not polished.
Maybe one day we'll pin this down.


m

[Greg.]

Hi M,

The below link shows the above referenced vase in Mosquito's post with a photo or catalogue reference and its attributed to Erwin Pfohl and Josephinenhütte. One of the photos shows an illustration showing a number of examples from this range, some of the colourways also look very similar to your example.

https://ebay.us/m/iBmTjS

Here's a rough Google translation of the the eBay description:-

""Design: Very rare, Art Deco "Vineta Crystal" vase, designed by Erwin Pfohl for the Josephine Glassworks in Schreiberhau (now Szklarska Poręba, Poland), manufactured around 1930. Mouth-blown, with powder fusion, in green and red, mold number 0673/8. This vase is documented in the most important Josephinenhütte book of the 20th century, page 316. A specimen is also located in the Passau Glass Museum in Germany. This is the only example of this series we have ever seen outside of a museum. This Vineta Crystal series by Josephinenhütte was a response to the "Ikora" glass series by its competitor (WMF). The glass contains some production-related internal bubbles, like small scratches, which are only visible with a magnifying glass."

Hope this helps.

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Helps?  I'm blown away by your generosity in sharing this and that you found this reference.  Thank you so very much!!

Well, that's amazing.  I am thrilled to bits with this.
The colourway of the linked vase is identical to mine.  Wow.  That's fantastic Greg.

The yellow bowl in your linked ebay picture (showing Stefania Zelasko book pictures) is interesting as I think I've come across the yellow splotches in another vase in my 14 year long searches for this.

Some more info on this thread here re my vase -
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,31709.msg265119.html#msg265119
Unfortunately all my auction links are now dead.  Soooo annoying.

m

[Greg.]

You're welcome, I'm sure it's nice to finally attribute after 12 years!

Quite lucky really to stumble across such a useful reference,  just shows how things come to light over time.

The comment regarding this range being in response to WMF Ikora is interesting,  I suppose that's why so many came up in the early searches.