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Author Topic: Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday  (Read 12393 times)

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Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday
« on: January 11, 2011, 09:17:35 PM »
Stunning is all I can say, bought as the main piece of a job lot of glass. Lable to the base just says made in Czechslovakia

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/WhiteRose1649/DSC00186.jpg

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Re: Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 11:38:55 PM »
Can I see the label please??
Is that Mica or Silver foil in the glass?

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Re: Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 11:48:15 PM »
Can I see the label please??
Is that Mica or Silver foil in the glass?

Thanks, Craig
it looks like silver foil, I'll put the pic of the lable up tomorrow. it still needs a clean up.

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Re: Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2011, 06:22:45 PM »
It's Mica.
There's one of these for sale in my local(ish) antique centre. Exactly the same. I don't think the maker has been tracked down yet, but lots of folk want to know - it is most likely Bohemian.
Work from this maker can often be confused with Monart - it's the use of combing effects in the decor and the inclusion of mica which can confuse - the mica used by the Ysarts was actually the christmas glitter bought from Woolworth's, I have no idea what this other maker used - but it looks exactly the same.

I don't think this lamp base would get confused with Monart - colours are wrong, the criss-cross is wrong, and although Jesus Brasso did do crimped frilly stuff, that was, to my knowledge, mostly huge basketty things  
(I thought that attachment of "jesus brasso" to these was simply somebody's reaction to seeing them - not somebody's name.....)

This is a link to the correct page of Frank's Scotland's Glass site, 4th row down under Bohemia/American Union Glass?, you'll see a combed vase with mica and a..... thing in the same colours as your lamp base.

http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/NotYsart.htm
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Re: Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2011, 06:41:39 PM »
I think there is a strong possibility that this is a Kralik product.... I would love to see one in person...... What do they want for the one in the shop?

Attached is an example of a recently discovered decor by them......

The patterning in the glass, the colors, and also the color of the applied rigaree are all consistent with their production...  It is not a decor I have seen before, but I would not be surprised if it is their work.

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Re: Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2011, 07:02:20 PM »
That doesn't look like the same thing at all, Craig - it looks far more finely blown, and more as if it contains silver foil, while the lamp base is definitely Mica chips.
The lamp base has whitish-pink (as in opaque) criss-cross combing over a sort of streaky blue-in-clear glass gather, not the bright pink enamels and blue crizzle-y sort of effect.

The rigaree on the lamp is orange and quite substantial. The whole thing is quite thick and substantial!

The one near me, I'm afraid, is "first dibs" to my brother - if he's willing to pay the price!
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Re: Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 07:08:01 PM »
I did not think it was the same decor as the lamp, only that there were some similarities.... the piece I posted is also quite thick and substantial.
The vase is definitely not silver foil inclusions....

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Re: Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2011, 07:18:04 PM »
 :huh:

But the silver in your vase would fit back together if it was shrunk a bit, Craig - it really, really looks like it's been silver foiled, then blown to stretch it a tiny bit, to me. I know my eyesight is rapidly failing and I need 3 different pairs of glasses to see, but I still think it looks like foil............... mica is quite different - it's much glitterier, it can be at different angles, (while foil gives a flatter appearance, all in one plane) and the shapes do not "jigsaw" back together with mica.

I can see where you're coming from, honest, :thup:  :sm:  I just think there are more differences than similarities.
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Re: Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2011, 07:29:47 PM »
The owner of the vase, a member of our discussion group for the website owns it and has assured me it is not silver foil.....  and I trust his opinion.....   It was sold on ebay recently and several of us were interested in it. I was one of them, and thought it was foil also...... something we have not seen in a piece of marked Kralik, which this is (arched Czechoslovakia).

When the owner received it, he announced that it was not foil.

You do see well enough to find this though.....   :sm:  .....  :thup:   ;D

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Re: Czech Lamp base I bought yesterday
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2011, 07:44:19 PM »
It's his vase, so it can be what he likes....  :P
I haven't had it in my sticky mitts, only looked at the images - and you know what a difference that can make!

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