Topic: Big ruby red jug

[Lustrousstone]

If it hasn't been ID'd on chatabout DG it's probably not Jeannette. The ground base seems wrong for a start and their stuff is pretty well known

[TxSilver]

Have we really got a definative answer Keith?  Are we assuming that the eBay listing is 100% acurate?
Yours is the same as theirs,  but can we be certain that it is Jeannette Glass? Is there a Jeannette Glass catalogue with it described in??

Your're right about Jeannette. I think that is the name of a town, right?

I don't trust the eBay listing, but I do trust Replacementsltd.com. These guys know their stuff and have written books on American glass. They are very good.

Lustrousstone, I don't know enough about Jeannette to say anything. I've only had a few things by them. I don't know what chatabout DG is.

[TxSilver]

I just thought about the DG. Is that referring to depression glass. This type of glass isn't depression. It was common in the 1950-70s period. A similar pattern was made for Tiara Glass, probably by Indiana. It does resemble the Miss America pattern. I remember trying to turn my Tiara tumblers into Miss Americas until I finally found them on an Indiana Glass site.

From what I found looking for this pitcher, every company appeared to have its diamond point or quilted. Few had red, it seems.

[TxSilver]

There are some goblets identified as Jeannette at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350429362312. The bottoms are like Keith's glass. I doubt the bases are ground, just pressed flat with the deeper star in the middle.

[Anne]

So, is it or is it not the same as the Jeannette Diamond Point one then?
http://images.replacements.com/images/images5/crystal/J/jeannette_diamond_point_ruby_38_oz_pitcher_P0000275109S0002T2.jpg

I'm confuzzled!  :pb:

[deco.queen]

Anne, you're not alone. For one thing Jeanette didn't do jewel colors like this is and chatabout says it's not Jeanette, they have one in the unknowns that's cobalt. They have a whole bunch of experts on that site, including the guy that wrote the Indiana Glass book and the curator of the Museum of American Glass and if they don't know.... :huh:.

[TxSilver]

According to online sources, yes, it is Jeannette. The bottoms of the pitcher and tumblers match, so they would all be Jeannette. Bob Page of Replacements, Ltd., is an expert on vintage American glass, so I'm inclined to trust their attributions.

Added on: Just read decoqueen's response, so the jury is still out on this one.

[keith]

Spoke to some people on a US site,one said 'replacements' are wrong about the Jeanette attribution and someone suggested Cambridge glass so I emailed the museum with a pic' and they said it's not one of theirs,will now try Indiana and Stiver :spls:

[deco.queen]

This isn't Indiana Glass because the rich jewel colors are not listed and the style is not shown in the book A Century of Indiana Glass. Also the shape is not shown on the Stiver site, I emailed them about it and got no reply, I sent a link using the chatabout pitcher. Here is the Stiver site that shows their patterns: http://www.stiver.it/pag/artavola1.html.

[antiquerose123]

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I have a suggest here, not sure IF it will work, or IF any info will come from it ------ but can't one check *Patents On-Line* to see if there are pics somewhere in a Patent Office for this design.  Is there something on-line to show the Patent of this item from Jeannette?  Then they can, or can not be excluded.  Anyone know a Patent number to do a search on-line?  Maybe that will bring up more info.  Whether a Patent number for this pitcher in Jeannette (must have a number, IF the replacement people can do a pattern of it...) or just something.

I guess we need to put our Heads  :ghug: together, and think outside the box of *where* we might be able to find info about this to find a match, or if there is no match.  Just a thought....about patent listing.

Surely to goodness, there has to be a record somewhere, IMHO   :ho: :ho: :ho: :thud:  Does Jeannette have a Place to still write too for info ??