Topic: (Unknown) - Iridescent, Applied Decorations

[Carolyn Preston]

i can set you straight on rose bowl. It is a rose bowl only if the thing is curved inward. As soon as it has an outward neck or a collar, it is no longer a rose bowl but a vase. Rose bowls were used for keeping dried roses on the mantle piece, not for floating damaged flowers.

Must be a cultural difference then. In Canada, the rose bowls have sometimes, a little ruffled collar. And nobody said anything about damaged flowers, they can be purchased from florists that way.

Carolyn

[Lustrousstone]

Rose bowl is the collector's term for inturned bowls, usually (but not always) with crimped rims. Apparently the shape first appeared in about 1880 and the term was in use in print by 1894. Collectors debate the origin of the term; some think it was related to rose petals (i.e., pot pourri); others think the crimped rim was to support the heavy blooms of antique roses (short stems). Info: Collectible Glass Rose Bowls, Johanna Billings. (She also shows some ceramic ones.)

Here are two examples I have, http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=440
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=553

[antiquerose123]

I see what Ivo means.  Yeah we have rose bowl with ruffled opening here --- but still the body of it is round.  The neck kinda goes out on this one.  It might be a bit of a cultural difference too -- as we here call everything a Rose Bowl.  But even to me, because it is bigger than *what* I think of a Rose bowl -- I did not think it was that either.  That is why in the Title I did not put Rose Bowl -- but thought because of it being bigger -- I thought I would call it a Vase.

Still have to say it is a very Pretty item.  It does appear to be well made, and show good wear on the bottom. 

Just have to try to figure out the Maker here.   Could it be Bohemian ? 

Any examples of other polished rims that appear to have gold on them?  It is not painted one, but well done when made.  Of course, I find all the hard things here.  I was hoping this would be easy once the right GMB members saw it -- but I guess the jury is still out on the maker, and the origin of this.


 :thud:  Will keep hunting.....  :wsh:

Oh, and because of the rim -- I was thinking it was one of those glass things for plant bulbs to sprout (forget the name....) but then I think it is a little big for that.  Thanks for the Reply also Lustrousstone.  See you were typing while I was -- I am just slower...

[Carolyn Preston]

You're thinking of hyacinth vases, but are they not usually more vertical than that?, Rose. And how the heck do we know the size of it. Size was not discussed (or did I miss something?)

Carolyn

[antiquerose123]

.....bump, do these photos help at all.....as the last Kick at the cat..

Is it Art Nouveau ??    Thought I would bump just in case some new ideas came up after the glass show there.  This (light) gold dust on it is driving me  :ho: too

The only thing I have found with any (kind of) resemblance to it is *HERE and I know I am way out in LEFT field.....but I can not find anything else. 

I am drawing a real blank -----> more than Normal  :pb:

Thanks for any assistance offered, or directed !!