Topic: Quiz: Oh no! That's not Murano!

[Paul S.]

must admit that I don't view other people's private albums - not out of indifference you understand, just that I never really seem to remember to look - and have been a bit quiet this week re glass so haven't been on the board much.    I must be improving somewhat, but recognized the Czech pieces from Mark Hill's book, and knew I had seen the WMF piece in one of the Miller's books (I'm assuming that the green one is WMF - only wasn't quite sure I fully understood your reply Astrid  -  pulled my back the other day, and it has left my brain a little under-powered )        The others, however, I must be candid and say that I don't really recognize  -  although as I have said they are all 'lookers' and great pieces to have on show (not that my trouble and strife would agree )

[astrid]

What I meant Paul, but perhaps I was a little cryptic, is that the purple one that seemed so familiar to you was posted yesterday in a thread named '   Unknown big purple vase, ID? German perhaps?', so I assume you've seen it there.

Astrid

[Jindra8526]

The second row is Czechoslovakian. I suppose that the red one on the right hand side is Skrdlovice piece. I cannot zoom it properly at my tablet device. Can you pleace give us more pictures of the pink-red one. The rest I am able to attribute, I hope.

Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cz

[astrid]

The red one on the far right is not a Czech piece, Jindrich. I didn't intend to split the country of origin over the photographs exactly. A beautiful piece of glass, though, and often misattributed. It's also found in slightly different heights and shapes and ashtrays. Apart from red I've also seen pieces with deep purple and turquoise blue instead of red.

I'll give a closer look for those wanting to admire it (and renamed the pic as not to spoil it):

[Paul S.]

"so I assume you've seen it there" - nope - don't think I did, but cud be a cse of deja vu.    I've gone thru my books for the red one, but have to throw the towel in.....although think it is Scandi

[astrid]

"so I assume you've seen it there" - nope - don't think I did, but cud be a cse of deja vu.    I've gone thru my books for the red one, but have to throw the towel in.....although think it is Scandi

No, not Scandi either.

[Jindra8526]

Well, your description that you have seen it in more colours made my suspiction, that this piece is Czech and Skrdlovice much deeper.

I had not this piece in hand but I suppose that the pece is blown to wooden mould and the side decoration is cut later. Also the top rim, that would be normaly opened at flame is cut. The cut decoration possibly is very unique and must not be made directly in glasswork. For me it looks like Stahlikova Skrdlovice piece from 50ties, chipped on sides so originaly "improved" and fixed by side cut.

The colour of core corresponds with the colour used in Skrdlovice exactly, the shape of vase and red core is also same, only side cuts and rim are different. I would wait for ideas of Skrdlovice 50ties expert Robert - bOBA.

At German ebay you can see very often Czech glass missatributed for Murano. Mosttly Chribska pieces are attribited as Murano very widely. I keep to inform sellers about their mistakes and I keep to give them links to catalogues, some of them change mind and description, some of them are stiff and display Murano attribution possibly for commercial purposes. It makes me mad, becouse I do not assume that Czech origin is worse than Murano 

Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cz

[bOBA]

Lovely glass there Astrid. The cut red one would not tempt me to buy it under the impression it was Skrdlovice. I am pretty sure I have seen some people attribute it as Bayel, Germany. I have, like you, seen a few of these and the frequency I have them in, again makes me reluctant to say Skrdlovice.... the cutting looks a bit more modern to me too. A nice piece though and one that could take a while to attribute maybe....


Robert (bOBA)

[dirk.]

Astrid and me are very sure what it is.... 

[astrid]

Astrid and me are very sure what it is.... 

Dirk is right, we have no doubts whatsoever, this is not a 'maybe' or a 'likely'. It's not Czech, it's not Skrdlovice. Bayel is a French company and not the maker of this piece, though it's starting to sound closer .

Astrid