Topic: Whitefriars 9649... in Gold Full Lead Crystal

[Pinkspoons]

It's the right height/shape, although my eye is generally untrained when it comes to Whitefriars... but is it?



The catalogues I've seen only mention ruby and kingfisher colourways.  :?

[Max]

It looks good to me Nic, I can only work on gut-feel though, because I don't have access to all the catalogues, only my mental ones!   :wink:  :roll:  Looks exactly the same as the ruby example though.  

[Pinkspoons]

I've looked through the catalogues 1950-1980, and the ones that list this jug have it only available in blue and red, so I suppose if it is Whitefriars it could have been made for foreign markets - it's the most frequent explanation for uncatalogued colourways.

It's either that or fall back on the usual hysterical RARE EXPERIMENTAL WHITEFRIARS - WOW!!!  :wink:

[Tigerchips]

How do you tell the difference between a Whitefrairs jug and a polish jug?

The base is not always polished flat on Whitefriars. Is Whitefriars heavier or better quality? Are the ground pontils a certian size?

Also, the other day, A Ruby Whitefriars jug  - probably the same as this one - had a rough spot on the spout. Is this a fault that Whitefriars sometimes has? I've seen two Whitefriars jugs like this and it looked as if it had been ground down, but now i'm not sure. I know that some of the ducks beaks are ground down.

[Max]

Tiger, you get to recognise the patterns with Whitefriars, that's all, there's no trick to it.  Just a few years looking at stuff...if that's a trick!  :lol:

I've had one of these little beaky jugs that had a rough spot on the beak too.  I'd hazard a guess that it's just the manner in which they were finished off at that point.  I've also had little rough spots on handles.

With the duckies, it's usually obvious when their little beaks have been ground down.  Poor little mites.

[B & M]

Later WF Ducks were generally finished with a ground edge to the beak, earlier ducks tend to have a freer style and no grinding. The grinding is often mistaken for a repair but is how they left the factory. Jill Wainman's Duck site should have more details.

 http://hometown.aol.co.uk/jillwainman/index.html

[Pinkspoons]

Oh, I forgot, for the folk who've not looked at the Is It Whitefriars? thread...

This jug is in the Gold Full Lead Crystal colourway, and it was most likely a one-off or a custom order and dates from between 1978-80.

[Ruby]

I know this seems a very late addition to this thread but in Australia these jugs, in what we call tangerine, are seen from time to time. Perhaps they were made for the Australian market. Just as thought.

[johnphilip]

I bet a bottle of Booze its Whitefriars probably blown by Ray Annenberg he was very good at jugs and handles . I was in a posh Antique shop with Ray about 12 years ago there was one of these in ruby described as a Victorian claret jug Ray politely told the vendor that it wasnt Victorian the irate vendor said i know my glass its my speciality Ray replied calmly and i know my glass i made it . it was still there several months later still described as Victorian . Ho HUM . Ray wears well for a Victorian Gent .

[Anne]

Nice story JP!   :hiclp: