Topic: ChanceGlass.net : cataloguing Fiestaware patterns

[Anne]

David, I meant could she confirm the name Fiona Glass rather than the Columbine pattern?

Pat, it's insidious... he's got me doing it too now, and I didn't like the stuff either!  :shock:  :roll:  :lol:

[David E]

Hi all,

I've now updated the site to include several new pattern idents.

There are only a few queries, but I'm be interested in anyone's comments.

Notes:
1. Willow - I've assumed this is the pattern due to the bark texture pattern... the dish certainly has some age to it.
2. New graphics are Woodland White, Wild Rice, Vine (on a Giraffe carafe!).
3. Wild Rice doesn't seem to fit IMO. Dated at 1953 it has a yellow pattern, no gilt on rim and a patterns that shrieks early '60s to me - any comments?
4. Other Patterns include; Peacock, Fragonard, Willow, Silhouette.
5. Willow is very reminiscent of the blue/white Willow china.
6. New Floral designs are; a Rose (Sovereign?), Viola, Springtime, Country Lane, Summer Melody, Hedgerow, Royal Bride.
7. Columbine identified!

[chopin-liszt]

:?  :shock:  :lol:

So the columbine is the one that looks like carnations? (No.2)

Could No.3 be lotus? (although I think it looks like stylised tulips)

Well done on my raggedypompom "Silhouette" dahlias!  

I think I mentioned before that I've recently picked up a wavy plate with dahlias and brambles on it. (Bramble is the proper word for "blackberry" where I come from - the home of soft fruit!)

I've also got another hyrid filligree....

[Anne]

David,  I'm thrilled to see the new pictures, and that the 2nd visit was so successful.  

Specific comments re your notes:

You have two different patterns identified as Willow? The bark textured one and the blue willow pattern one. This is a little confusing perhaps? Could the bark Willow actually be the Aqualux Bark I wonder?

Wild Rice looks like a very controlled pattern yet you have the description as: "random placing of clear small ovals (grains of rice?) on an opaque background" which doesn't match the image.

Columbine - I'm amazed. I didn't think it was that one, but then again, I didn't think any of the trippy flowers really looked like columbines!  :roll:

[David E]

So the columbine is the one that looks like carnations? (No.2)

Could No.3 be lotus? (although I think it looks like stylised tulips)

Yup, according to the information I have. Not sure about Lotus as I seem to have run out of pattern names now :?  

I'd like to see the 'Brambles' plate. There are also fruit patterns, so maybe this is one? Could be Fiesta Glass, of course, which is why I can't place it currently.

[David E]

You have two different patterns identified as Willow? The bark textured one and the blue willow pattern one. This is a little confusing perhaps? Could the bark Willow actually be the Aqualux Bark I wonder?

Nope, that's just me getting the name wrong :oops: The 'Blue Willow' was wrong and could be a Fiesta Glass pattern, but the 'white bark texture' is probably Willow and would seem to fit the era (1952)  Thanks for correcting me...

Wild Rice looks like a very controlled pattern yet you have the description as: "random placing of clear small ovals (grains of rice?) on an opaque background" which doesn't match the image.

That's a quote as provided by literature from the Heritage Centre, and provided by Mr. Tony Cartwright who was the last General Manager of Fiesta Glass. This is why I think this pattern may be 'Cut Pearl' (1958) instead. The regular pattern as opposed to "random placing" didn't fit for me either.

Columbine - I'm amazed. I didn't think it was that one, but then again, I didn't think any of the trippy flowers really looked like columbines!  :roll:

Chance glass never ceases to amaze me, with the diversity of patterns and slightly misleading names - I thought Royal Bride was a commemorative plate :lol:

[chopin-liszt]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

"brambles plate.....can't place it currently"!

 :oops: :oops: :oops: I must be cracking up!

I was looking around my house again, David.  I've got glass sliding doors on a cupboard in my utility room, which look exactly like your Heritage Centre" description of "Wild Rice".  :shock:

I think the period might be about right too. (We've discoered the utility room is a new addition to the house, originally 1876)

The base glass is textured, like pottery that has been pressed against cloth of a courseness similar to denim - a bit rougher than ordinary cotton, with little oval beads of glass raised up from it, in a pattern. The pattern shape is like the outline of a mesh which is stretched over the surface of the glass, pulled so that the holes are oval shaped. The overall effect is, I presume, meant to be random. The beady bits are about 2mm long, 1mm wide, rice-shaped. :roll:    :?:

[David E]

I've got glass sliding doors on a cupboard in my utility room, which look like your description of "Wild Rice"

Hmm, I presume you're relating this, as Chance made Fiestaware from window glass, and this could be an 'obscure' glass?

An interesting theory and you may be right! But can you date the cabinet!

I'm not sure about Wild Rice at all. The first use of colour would appear to be Hellenic in 1961 (and that was just a pale green) so 1958 (Cut Pearl) is much closer to this. We are also relying on someone else's reminiscences and we can't guarantee the accuracy; even Delia (the Curator) told me not to entirely trust all the rarer names.

It'll have to remain a query. :?

[David E]

If the cabinet dates to the 1930s, then the glass might be an example of earlier Chance Aqualux - see 20th Century Factory Glass, Lesley Jackson, where you can see a photo of four examples.

i need a camera :cry:

We need to start a fund... 'Buy Sue a Camera'

[bubbles]

Here is the picture of my two plates.  From your site David (well done by the way!) I have positively identified them as the Lace and Filigree pattern. The left hand plate measures approx. 21cms and the right hand plate approx. 25cms across.

http://www.glassbudvases.co.uk/images/laceplates.jpg