Topic: Webb's 'Gay' glass.

[Paul S.]

thanks

[Sendhandfran]

Hi Paul,
I came across your post here while trying to find out more about a sundae dish I have. I hope you don't mind me asking your opinion.
I wondered if you know if this is a "Sunshine Amber" dish by Thomas Webb?
Your vase looks the same colour (which if like this, can look completely amber or half green depending on the light) but I've not been able to find a plain glass sweet dish like it.
Do you know if there any pattern books it maybe listed in?

[Lustrousstone]

It's a grapefruit dish. I also have one. Webb wasn't the only company to make this sort of colour. Walsh Walsh did too.

[Sendhandfran]

Thank you Lustroustone! I never would've thought it a grapefruit dish, I was thinking along more unhealthy lines of ice creams and sundaes I thought Webb wouldn't be the only works to make this colour but they were all I could find. Did Walsh make this do you know? I'd guess around 1920/30 ish??

[Paul S.]

hi - Christine is far more knowledgeable on these things than me, so appreciate the reply Christine.         Sorry to be thick sendhandfran, but I take it you're saying your dish is uranium  -  would appear both of your pix have been taken in daylight, and not using a u.v. torch.
Often, when exposed to morning sunshine, the short wave length light rays will make the uranium react quite strongly - gives a nice glow on the edges.
My rather uneducated guess is that your dish is not sufficiently 'amber' to be T/Webb's Sunshine Amber from their Gay Glass range - but no doubt Christine will put us right.
Easy to tell if you have a grapefruit dish, as opposed to a general purpose desert dish  -  the base has turned up outer edges which provide somewhere safe to put your pips  -  saves spitting them out.
I'm sure that sundaes are always tall and cone shaped, but perhaps I'm wrong.

P.S.   If you look at the Board's archive section 'Library of Thomas Webb Colours', am sure you'll find plenty of examples of T.W. material with which you can at least compare colours.
I could be wrong, but have an idea that Walsh pieces relating to this shape and colour have an iridescent finish, so will have a different type of surface appearance.

[Lustrousstone]

Walsh used their sunshiney amber for other finishes other than irridescent, including over white as a "primrose"

[nigelbenson]

Hi,

Can I ask where the name 'Venetian Ripple' for the original item featured in the is thread comes from please? It's just that I thought this pattern was called something different and Venetian Ripple referred to another.

Many thanks, Nigel

[Paul S.]

it's late Nigel so I will spend time on this tomorrow a.m. hopefully  -  for the time being, and without investigating the three references I quoted in that first post, I am assuming it came from one of them - let's hope that is confirmed tomorrow.

back again Nigel  -  the name V.R. occurs in C.H. '20th Century Glass', but it's not linked to an illustration in that book, and it does look as though I've made a wrong assumption in associating it with the design you refer to, which I believe is correctly 'horizontal wave'.           V.R. is a legitimate design, and is apparently an alternative name for 'heavy pillar mould'  -  a pattern shown in C.H. 'British Glass 1800 - 1914' - and very dissimilar to horizontal wave.

thanks for pointing out my error - much appreciated - and perhaps the Mods. can correct my mistake when convenient. [Mod: Initial post corrected]

[nigelbenson]

Many thanks for the reply Paul.