Topic: Green vase moulded with swags - Sowerby? (also seen iridised version)

[adam20]

Opaque green vase (jade like) 4" high with panels of art nouveau like scrolls dots and swags

Any ideas?

Thanks Adam

Mod: title amended slightly to catch eyes of those who may know

[Anne]

No idea Adam, but I have the same one with chrome leaf-pattern holder, lid and spoon as a jam dish. Angela inspected it closely when she was here one day and she was baffled by it too...

[millarart]

take it bagley has been ruled out

[pamela]

Here's a similar with lid

Contemporary Pasabahçe, Türkiye is my wild guess.

This one is confirmed Turkish as it came in its original box.

 :ooh:

[Anne]

Hmmm I'm not so sure Pamela, as mine has a 1950s style chrome stand and a bakelite / old plastic knob on the lid, so I think it's older. Plus the spoon is pure 1950s as well. There are scratches on my pot which fit the metal holder, so they've been together a while I think.

Oooooh I've just had a thought: I've not checked the spoon for a maker's name - that might help pin a date down closer.

[Lustrousstone]

I think it looks like it was made by a bottle maker, so perhaps UGB or Sherdley. Those leafy things are very 40s/50s.

[Anne]

Mine has a curious powdery coating inside  - not like proper smooth frosted / satin glass, it looks like a surface treatment which was fired on. It's very scratched as if from the action of a spoon being scraped round inside the jar over a period of time. The metal holder has no marks, neither has the lid, and all the spoon has on it is CHROME PLATE MADE IN ENGLAND but no indication as to maker. The leafy thing (using Christine's technical term!  ) is like the one on my mystery square bowl discussed a long while back on the board here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1101.0.html

[Lustrousstone]

Two more leafy stands here, both on Bagley items
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=107
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=116

[Anne]

We know from the earlier topic that both Bagley and Sowerby glass is found in Zimmerman holders like these, so seeing Pamela's iridised version is interesting, as we have no evidence of Bagley making iridised glass (or have we?), so I wonder if they could be a Sowerby design (as we know Sowerby did make iridised / Carnival glass.)  I wonder if Adam D or Glen can help with this mystery?

[Adam]

As this is mould blown it could not be Sowerbys.  Usual caveat, of course - unless there was a fundamental change of methods after I left.  I never heard of any.

Adam D.