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Author Topic: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?  (Read 2444 times)

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Offline ju1i3

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I often see antique glasses described as "beakers" and glasses described as "tumblers". Is there a standard for these terms? I heard the term "pony glass" for the first time a few days ago. Is this common? I read that they hold 140 mls and when I measured these, they held exactly that.
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2011, 09:07:41 PM »
Hi Juli3,  I have often thout the same about Jug, pitcher and ewer!!
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2011, 01:01:23 PM »
Using Harold Newman's An Illustrated Dictionary of Glass:

Tumbler = a drinking glass without a handle, foot or stem and having a flat base.
Beaker = a drinking glass without a handle which often has a flared mouth and flat base but sometimes has a stemmed foot. [But apparently the original term sometimes referred to examples that did have a handle and a spout (or "Beak")]

Jug = a vessel used for pouring liquids and usually with a lip or spout and often with a looped handle.
Ewer = a type of jug with a number of features one of which is usually a large looped handle.
Pitcher = the name that people in the Americas use instead of "jug".

Pony = same as a Whiskey Glass

Glass, as a term for a vessel or other formed item, is not listed by Newman. But I guess it is usually a simple contraction of "drinking glass", although "spy glass" and perhaps even "looking glass" have also been contracted to "glass".

Further qualifications or amendments to any of the above are welcome. :)
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2011, 04:46:17 PM »
So what's a juggy thing with a spout but no handle?
I've got two, they do exist.

Interesting about "beaker", Kev, thanks for that. :thup:
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 04:59:27 PM »
 :thup: :thup:  Good info !! 

Now should explain a Celery vase from a Vase -- as I can not tell the difference ever   :thud:  and how do you know it is a Celery vase, and not just a regular old vase ??  I had never heard the term celery vase except here on the Board.  :huh2:

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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 05:00:18 PM »
... a juggy thing with a spout but no handle = a vase :D
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2011, 05:02:32 PM »
A cocktail mixer? with or without handle but including a spout.

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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2011, 05:04:07 PM »
 :huh:

A vase, Kev?  Complete with a swizzle stick and a great big spouty folded-over spout?
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2011, 05:07:54 PM »
Rose, best to run a search on the Board for "celery" and compile a document with all the threads and comments. Then edit the document to remove duplications and rewrite it to make better sense than when it was first compiled. After that, come back here and tell us all in simple words what the answer is.

Or, for a succinct answer, see your copy of Ivo's glass fact file a-z - you do have a copy, don't you :)
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2011, 07:58:17 PM »
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So what's a juggy thing with a spout but no handle?

Decanter?

I've always thought of ewers as having a stem and foot.  Maybe that's a US thing.

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