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Offline antiquerose123

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Chinese -- Right ????
« on: July 30, 2011, 11:52:40 AM »
Good Morning -- I could not sleep here, and gonna jump in the shower here -- and have my morning Coffee.... ;D

I am posting this for a friend that bought this.  She does not have a digital Camera, or know how to post pics.  I told her that I think this is Chinese (but still pretty) and I just wanted to confirm my thoughts to her.  I had to drag this home here to take the pics of it (as I am going to email the pics to her) so she has them.  Anyways, blah, blah, blah......

I am pretty sure this is Chinese.   It is very heavy with foil flakes -- but the flakes look different than what others look like -- but what I am not sure about --- is when you look at the bottom, there is quite a bit of wear.  So I was wondering if this is just older Chinese glass, or not?  I just want to be sure I give the right info to another person when she asked me about it.  I do not want to burst her bubble either -- so if this is still older Chinese made glass -- it is still older (right??) due to the wear.

I am not an appraiser here -- but think what I told her is correct ??  but then the wear on the bottom was bothering me -- so I thought for her sake (and her asking my opinion on it) I best drag it home, take pics of it -- and get your opinion.

I will take it back to her today, and we will have a visit, and some coffee together  :t:

Awwww  :phew: there.  I can breathe easier now, as I do not want to tell her the wrong info....as it was still just an educated guess.  I know she will still like it as I am always talking *Glass* to her....so when she found this she thought she would ask me. 

Best to make sure I am giving the right info....

Thanks
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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2011, 05:53:08 PM »
I would say wrong, though I don't know what it is.

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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2011, 06:42:17 PM »
I have a hunch that it maybe czech/bohemian spatter glass. It looks like someone was inspired by Fat Lava German pottery and created it in glass. Nice

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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2011, 07:50:34 PM »
The technique reminds of that Murano approach of laying on thin slices of rods or murrines on the gather, which spread when marvered.  The effect is a little more controlled than spatter glass, and results in more clearly defined blobs than random splashes. Think a petoni and a peton nerox by Fratelli Toso, although I'm not suggesting FT here. Having said that, I really don't have a strong suggestion for what it might be, but I wouldn't rule out Murano.

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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2011, 09:51:34 PM »
 :spls2: :spls2:   Boy, do I Stink  :tsk: at guessing this one !!!!

(Can I hide my head.....DOH)

Having suggestions of possible Czech/Bohemian or (not to rule out yet) Murano -- makes me feel silly.  The thought went through my mind of Murano, but then because the Foil flakes *look* a bit darker to me, and having that *kinda* mottled effect....that is why I thought Chinese.  It is very heavy!!  That is why this was bothering me because IMHO, there was more wear on the bottom that I thought there should be.  Then the thought crossed my mind that maybe it is older, or just older Chinese glass.....and I thought ..... I just gotta post this here for her.  She only paid $10 for it -- and I have been informing her what you folks are saying, so she is really enjoying this too.

So I guess the Jury is out on this yet......and I will just go bury my head.  On a Positive note, at least the wear on the bottom was bothering me too -- so I figured I best post for her.

Here are some (bigger) pics -- I think to see if it helps anymore....   :pb:
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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2011, 09:57:35 PM »
At first glance, I'd say Chinese.

I see a lot of the Chinese vases at local auction houses, even those have some wear to the base and they're brand new.

Nice looking piece though, don't think she could go wrong at $10! :-)

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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2011, 10:44:29 PM »
Hi does the glas have a fatty or greasy feel ?? most cheap chinese glass has this feel to it .

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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 11:14:49 AM »
The foil looks to be gold leaf. I think you can rule out Bohemian spatter glass, that is quite different. It might be Czech but I think that's unlikely. It looks too well put together to be Chinese and I don't mean the quality necessarily, just the overall appearance.

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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2011, 08:58:23 AM »
The foil looks to be gold leaf. I think you can rule out Bohemian spatter glass, that is quite different. It might be Czech but I think that's unlikely. It looks too well put together to be Chinese and I don't mean the quality necessarily, just the overall appearance.

Hi there:

Still wondering about  this and thinking maybe *older* (1960's) Japanese (rather than Chinese) as a Possibly?? 

The reason why I am saying and thinking this is because this item * HERE reminds me of it.    That one in the link is an Older Japanese one with a KAWA Import label, that says it is from the 1960's.  So just tossing this out there ?????

Could that be the identify of my red vase here too? ??       
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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2011, 10:48:41 AM »
There is a mid-range wot-not shop I pop into on my trawls from time to time. They have modern Chinese glass and they are getting better all the time.
Shape similar to the one above. But content of glass not the same. But this could just be the choice of the retailer.
The 'gold' in the ones I see is like gold dust or as it's pinker, copper dust.
I think the vase here has, as Lustrousstone has suggested, has gold-leaf. But would that work technically? I would have thought that gold had a much lower melting point than glass. What I mean is I always guessed that they put gold leaf into the mix at some point after the mixing and then as the glass shape is formed, the leaf breaks down into tiny grains? (expert opine please)

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