I'll admit I was a bit confused here. You stated "A large crystal replacement firm listed this stem in their publication on stemware identification as the Carmel pattern made in Romania", however when I checked the Replacements site for Carmel the response I received was Fostoria 1984-1986 discontinued because Fostoria closed in 1986 so the Romanian labels on Carmel before 1986 is confusing.To double check I searched on the Replacements site Fostoria Carmel & Romania & nothing came up so I searched Fostoria Romania & got a response, however among the patterns listed as produced in Romania (Kristina, Nadia, FOS5, FOS6, FOS7 & FOS10) Carmel was not listed as having been produced in Romania. Now what I think possibly happened is when LCC finally disposed of Fostoria altogether whomever ended up with the rights to use the Fostoria name & had the remaining balance of the molds not sold to other U.S. manufacturers sent them to Easter Europe later. Thats the only explaination I can come up with since Replacements does not show Carmel as Romanian. As I said before the Romanina made stemware & sets appeared in...well its been a long time, but I believe it was 89-90 when they showed up in the Cambridge Fostoria outlet & none of it at that time resembled anything out of a Fostoria mold.