Topic: Royo

[dinklepip]

I have several pieces of signed Royo glass and have just been looking around on the net for some cheap pieces.  I have also thought they are Moser pieces but was was astounded to see that a lot of people say they are Spanish and mistakenly ID'd as Moser.  I am confused now.  Can any of you extremely knowledgeable collectors out there confirm please?

[Max]

It is a bit of a minefield, but this thread might help Dinkle:   

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1565.0.html

[TxSilver]

The pieces are definitely Spanish. Royo is the more mysterious of the two Spanish glass decorators that have been wrongly assigned to Moser. I have not been able to learn his first name. Moser affirms that they did not have any part in the Royo or Cirera pieces, and that they did not even have a Spanish market in the 1920s. It would be fun to learn how the rumor ever started. The only thing that the Spanish and Moser pieces have in common is enamel.

[dinklepip]

thanks guys  :kissy:

[johnphilip]

Hi Dink i listed eight good pieces on ebay last week not for a large sum , only two of the eight sold one was signed Gordiola Mallorca the others just Royo , it has taken me about 35 years to convince people they aint Moser , i believe Ivo was one of  my first converts . :smg: jp

[TxSilver]

(clear throat) Sorry, jp, but it took a woman in Spain doing a lot of research on Genis Cirera-Cassonovas to let me know about the glass. There is a lot of information available about Cirera. He is well thought of in Spain. I still haven't figured out if Royo is a person or a company. I believe it is a person who was simply called by his last name. Of course, both Cirera and Royo probably had a crew of people doing the actual decorating.

[johnphilip]

Well Anita i did mention it when i first joined the forum and have been banging on about it ever since no one believed me then , it was one of my first threads , i even suggested to Ivo to visit the factory in Algaida as i did when Franco was still in charge of Spain . I have sold in all 22 pieces and have another 27 to go . One of my other threads was about my collection of valuable Helen and Hanna Walton glass , i was told it couldnt be that valuable because no one on the forum knew them , they were valued by Lyon and Turnbull at 500 pounds each at that time . I did get an apology from my favourite mod . jp  :ooh: :pb:

[dinklepip]

Hi Dink i listed eight good pieces on ebay last week not for a large sum , only two of the eight sold one was signed Gordiola Mallorca the others just Royo , it has taken me about 35 years to convince people they aint Moser , i believe Ivo was one of  my first converts . :smg: jp

arrr so they were your pieces then

[johnphilip]

Yes Dink the green pair went to USA the blue one to France they were not as good quality as the ones that didnt sell , lighter weight glass and enamel , they were probably later ones but still very nice . Some wine related ones i have are decorated with coats of arms of Spanish regions and are probably earlier ones . There is one with a signature i have never seen before but is from the same stable .
About ten years ago a German lady dealer threatened to sue me for suggesting they were Gordiola not Moser as it would affect her business , her reasoning was she had seen it in The Glass Lexicon , i would have loved to have been wrong as i had so much of it and  have devalued my own collection . :cry:

[dinklepip]

oh blimey you can't even breathe these days without anyone wanting to sue you