Topic: Turqouise and Gold Tray/Dish, French?

[jomo99]

  Hi All!!

              I was at the Auctions last week and this Tray/Dish was part of one of the lots I won. Described in the catalogue as being French, its is a lovely Turqouise Blue with Heavy Gold Decoration, it is 8 1/4"  or 21cm across and 1" or 2.5cm in depth, Could any of you wonderful people help ID manufacturer and /or approximate age please??

                                     TIA

                           Warmest Wishes,

                               John

[jomo99]

 Any Ideas anyone? 

[Anne]

Never seen a plate like it before John, but the colour and gilding remind me of some Czech perfume bottles I saw somewhere a while ago. May be a red herring but....

[jomo99]

 Hmmm, Czech? hadn't considered that, Thanks Anne! :kissy:  As I said in my original post the Auctioneer had it catalogued as French but couldn't say more than that!


                                   Warmest Wishes,


                                          John

[flying free]

John there are some Moser gilded blue pieces on this link
- just perhaps somewhere else to search.  Also Anne put a link on to an online Czech glass collection resource somewhere (I'll have  look in a mo) and I seem to remember there were many antique pieces in that collection, so that may be worth a trawl through?
http://www.great-glass.co.uk/library/lib1ba.htm
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[Anne]

This one, M!
http://www.miloslavbecka.cz/skla/index.php - Glass collection of Dr. Miloslava Bečky

[flying free]

Anne I think that was the one but the link is now showing 'error' for me :cry:
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[KevinH]

And trying simply the basic domain name gave me an "active24" page saying "Server running on domain name www.miloslavbecka.cz was blocked"

[KevinH]

Not sure if this will help, but for info here are photos of two of my items that are very likely from the same maker as several of those shown on the Great Glass site, linked to above. My photos are provided to show some detail which I believe is fairly typical of items like these.

The first photo is a composite image of the two together but one piece is with flash and the other is without. They are both approx 4.5 inch (11.4cm) high. Second image is a closeup of part of the bulbous section of the first piece. Third and fourth photos are closeup sections of the thinner item - but both images are laid on their side.

I have some other items like these with less detailed decoration. But are the details shown here the same as or similar to those of John's dish?

And is the Great Glass attribution of Moser really what they are? I know we have discussed some similar pieces before but a thread I did find had lost the images. Even so, I don't recall an attribution being agreed. Maybe Anne's reference to the Dr. Miloslava Bečky item(s) could help - if we only we could see the page(s).

[Lustrousstone]

Kev's look typically Bohemian/Czech to me with the yellow enamel under the gilding to give raised gold lines, which so often wear off. Jomo's looks much finer but the pictures are too small to see detail. Can you resize the originals so that the longest dimension is 700 pixels please. I think I might veer more towards French though.