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yellow posy vase with wide flat rim- mottled swirled colour
« on: December 17, 2011, 01:57:06 AM »
When I bought this I thought it might be a Nazeing for Elwell post war vase in primrose? but now I've decided to try and look it up it isn't quite the same as the others I've found _ at least it looks different to me  :-\ in that it seems to have a thick clear cased base which the others I've found don't appear to have and the colour swirls from right to left up the vase.  It appears to have a pale green caseing or  a clear with a green tint(not clear).  It doesn't have the white in that my plum bowl has.  It has a rough snapped off pontil mark.
It's exactly 5 1/4" diameter and 2 1/2" high.
Thanks for any thoughts which are much appreciated.
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Re: yellow posy vase with wide flat rim- mottled swirled colour
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2012, 09:59:25 AM »
polite bump for this please :)
I have just bought a lidded powder box which looks to be the same decor (I have no pictures I'm afraid as my computer has crashed,but as soon as I can I will post), but the powder box bowl is round, with an indented vertical neck for the lid to sit over, mould blown from the top, very neat concentric circle base reflecting the mould, and has a cut rim.  The lid is chrome with a perspex handle with a little flower in it.  The powder box is not cased and some of the bubbles have burst in the interior.  It is green but doesn't seem to be that 'May green' of Nazeing nor the distemper green of Vasart I don't think.  It's a pretty baby green with a hint of aqua to it.
Anyone recognise the description ;D I haven't spotted it in my searches for Nazeing including the haul of glass from Elwell's.
thanks for any thoughts - happy to keep searching, but leads would be helpful and appreciated.
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Re: yellow posy vase with wide flat rim- mottled swirled colour
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2012, 12:25:43 PM »
Don't know about leads, how about vague thoughts :)
I remember this from December, but since I shy away from these swirly bubbled things, can't recall what I thought at the time.    Amazing how images can mislead  -  I'd have put money on this being taller than 2.5",                       Don't know if you have Geoff. Timberlake's book, but there is a pic. of a yellow posy which looks similar to yours, with this massive everted downturned rim, but I can't make out if the book example is clear cased at the base like yours.    Certainly the yellow looks about right, even down to the blotchy effect where the colour is more concentrated.   Unfortunately, the book doesn't give dimensions - neither do I know what the pontil mark area looks like on the Nazeing piece.
I even wondered, briefly, if yours might have been Alum Bay.                Have you looked at many 'yellowish' Nazeing posy vases.
I don't think the direction of swirl would discount this being Nazeing.         I wonder if it might by any chance be R.B./S & W.
Sorry it's not much help m.

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Re: yellow posy vase with wide flat rim- mottled swirled colour
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2012, 12:58:51 PM »
Paul, thanks for your thoughts :) I'm not really expecting to get an answer on the board to be honest, but thank you for trying to help.  I only post pics because I am aware that others collect these pieces or have an interest in id'ing them so as to help iding in other pieces etc.  Once I get my new computer I will load up some pics of the powder bowl as well, as I'm sure clear pics including those of the base, pontil mark, side view of casing etc will be helpful to others in the future.  Your problem of not being able to see how a piece is cased is my major bug bear with books.  You often get only one pic, and none of the base or what might be helpful distinguishing features, or close ups of the decor.  Therefore, in the cases where there is potential conflict of id, the crucial factors that might enable an id are missing, which can be vastly irritating.

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Re: yellow posy vase with wide flat rim- mottled swirled colour
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2012, 01:20:49 PM »
My guts suspect this isn't Nazeing but "the one-that gets mistaken for Nazeing and is often labelled "Scottish glass".

The barrel shape of the base deosn't seem right, and the turnover top not wide enough. But I don't have the books, don't study these in particular - I just encounter lots and lots of it....
I may well be wrong! I've been trying to photograph this bit I got last week - my guts think it is Nazeing.
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Re: yellow posy vase with wide flat rim- mottled swirled colour
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2012, 01:53:25 PM »
I think that might be Strathearn, at least that is how mine was id'd.  As far as the yellow item with the drooping rim - you'll be gratified that you can narrow the search and exclude Europe, Asia, the Americas and the rest of the world.

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Re: yellow posy vase with wide flat rim- mottled swirled colour
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2012, 01:56:03 PM »
Ivo, apologies for not understanding but which one are you referring to as Strathearn please?
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Re: yellow posy vase with wide flat rim- mottled swirled colour
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2012, 02:20:25 PM »
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I'm confused too, Ivo. The green thing isn't Strathearn, honest!  :)

And if for M's posy, we can exclude "Europe, Asia, the Americas and the rest of the world"..... ummm... where else is there?  ;)
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Re: yellow posy vase with wide flat rim- mottled swirled colour
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2012, 02:32:46 PM »
yes i was referring to the green thing. no strath no glory...

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Re: yellow posy vase with wide flat rim- mottled swirled colour
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2012, 08:43:40 PM »
so definitely British then? :)
Sue, the Nazeing posy vase I've seen has a much wider rim.  However, I was wondering given the very thick casing this has, which is similar to a bowl I have id'd I believe as possibly Nazeing for Elwells, that this maybe the same as a guess?
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