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Author Topic: Schachtenbach 1850 ish? Jade green satin uranium glass lustre with snake, gilded  (Read 2488 times)

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or Bohemian same period?  I found a reference in Pressglas Korrespondenz accidentally and it immediately made me think of this piece.  
http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2000-6w-lnenickova-duftbehaelter.pdf

please see page 2 top row right hand side
The snake has completed indented eyes then has gilding around them, and the enamelling on it is/was little gold flowers and stripes.  The gilding is still quite visible. It measures 14" tall. I did find another reference to lustres being made in Schachtenbach here
 http://www.blickpunkt-bayerwald.de/index.php?m=wandern_nach_schachtenbach
as well as a piece in auction in blue opaline with a snake that looked remarkably similar to mine
Thoughts much appreciated as always  :sun:
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The coiling snake was a recurring theme in opaline glas circa 1870 and made in various works - the most prominent being Baccarat and Saint Louis. I would guess there were at least half a dozen snake makers and snake decorators - so I would not jump to any conclusion just yet.  These things are just incredibly difficult to attribute. But you have the period right.  The page you refer to is dedicated to perfumes only.

Nice find!

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thanks Ivo  :) it was the perfume bottle top right that made me think of this lustre. The snake is damaged half way up but the lustre is in good condition.  It has a cut and polished rim to the base and is shiny inside.  I'll add a pic of the base in a mo.  ~The other link I gave shows a pic of a lustre apparently id'd as typical of Schachtenbach - satin glass I think, blue and flowered, but different to mine though.
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A few more pics...and I can't believe I never noticed the two number 2's on the base  ::)  one is engraved one is gilded.  Can that be because it was originally no 2 of a pair?  I can't think why it would be gilded and engraved - one on either side of the interior of the base. Odd.
I've also added a pic of the gilding of the snakes tongue on the stem which is quite a cute touch.
The base is hollow up to the knop bit on the stem.
The edge of the rim is bevelled on both sides.
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Pic attached of it fully clothed  :)
does anyone have a piece of Schachtenbach who can check the base to see if it is the same and or numbered please?
All the pieces I've found do seem in the pictures to appear to have this open foot with a cut rim as it were rather than an enclosed foot.  I've checked as many as I can of Richardson and can't find similar.  St Louis I've not been able to find satin glass pieces or this odd green colour, but did find a  small egg on a stand attributed to St Louis.  Their snakes look different as well on the pieces I found.  I'm finding it quite hard to find that many references. I did find a  turquoise bowl attributed to Harrach that had a crenellated type rim, but it was shiny as well.
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Can i do a quick  Christine on you - does it glow?

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oh yes, it surely does, like a mad thing.  It's my most glowy piece.
I'll try and do a pic later.
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pic added in post above
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I finally found a pair of these in blue - it's an unusual blue, quite distinctive.  The only other piece I've seen in this colour with a satin finish was a sort of etui I think, fashioned as a jockey cap with ormolu mounts, but it's difficult to tell if it really is the same kind of glass.   Interestingly  the lustres on this pair are the same as mine.  Mine has all the lustres complete as well as having original connectors between the octagonal and long drop (although someone has replaced the original hanging connectors on the  lustres with hideous butterfly pins which I must get round to changing to pin-head pins at some point).
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/2735445
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'Victorian' is a good, neutral description...

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