Topic: Black bowl with gold trail and silver inclusions

[chriscooper]

Again purchased in the darkness of an early morning boot sale, appears to be well made but the lighter it got the more it started to look tk maxx  and  of  Far Eastern descent  :sun:
Any thoughts have I unintentionally purchased my first piece of Chinese glass?

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yvjcwawmQIo/Tw72szkGxHI/AAAAAAAAVXI/b--LVcxF9qs/s512/SDC10182.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GjrULUEsCtY/Tw72IRdPqFI/AAAAAAAAVQk/cMB9xGNmYBc/s640/SDC10172.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JxflE4LI31I/Tw720LiqeYI/AAAAAAAAVVA/s1nHccIqG7A/s640/SDC10184.JPG
And finally, probably the give-away the base
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rwoJa9YwIes/Tw72WiPVW3I/AAAAAAAAVQ4/wTSdfA4o5Bk/s640/SDC10176.JPG

Chris

[keith]

I'll stick my neck out and say 'Murano' with all that aventurine :pb:

[flying free]

I'd say not Murano with that base finish, and I'm not sure China either - maybe Spanish?  but that's a guess.
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[johnphilip]

Hi Chris i hate to say this but it looks as if someone has scraped it along a paving stone to add the age look , note how the lines all go one way and are very white  , although saying that it does look well made . I hope i am wrong .

[Ivo]

That finish just screams Lafiore on Mallorca - but the aventurine is quite achieved - and even if they can make quite astonishing glass I've not seen anything like it there. 

JP I'm glad you're back and your usual self <keeping fingers crossed> paving stone is the technoque.

[TxSilver]

No idea, but I'd like to throw Poland and Japan in the mix for consideration. The four points remind me of Poland, while the silvery inclusions make me think of Japan.

[johnphilip]

Hi Ivo et al there were a couple of dealers down on the south coast who brought over van loads of new large Italian pieces , they said several London dealers were buying them rubbing the bases on paving stones or the like and selling them as old , i dont know how true it is but i do believe it happens as i have seen quite a few at fairs that scream out at you .

[TxSilver]

Chris, the more I look at the bowl, the more I'm leaning toward Japan. The silver reminds me so much of a piece I once saw that had a Lefton label. It may be a good way to look.

[Ivo]

Hi Ivo et al there were a couple of dealers down on the south coast who brought over van loads of new large Italian pieces , they said several London dealers were buying them rubbing the bases on paving stones or the like and selling them as old , i dont know how true it is but i do believe it happens as i have seen quite a few at fairs that scream out at you .

actually I think that in these pieces the sharp pontil mark is taken back by grinding using a grinder ball fitted to a power drill - so the piece stays still and the grinder moves. The trick of moving a piece over a rough surface is to create scratch on the stand ring and should not fool anyone. Soft scratch or standring wear are unmistakable and takes a long time to evolve. If I ever see a piece with fake wear I tell the dealer I would have been interested but for the damage to the underside. And you can tell by their guilty look they know what you mean.

[johnphilip]

Yes real age wear is unmistakable , and a bonus point in my book .