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Offline petet63

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Sowerby 'Cucumber' bowl
« on: January 24, 2012, 11:37:51 AM »
Hello again , I have this Uranium piece but am a little confused with the info I am getting. I searched and found the 1927 catalogue with this piece on but got conflicting views as to who it belongs to after further searches. Can anyone confirm the maker and age. This piece glows without a UV light !!
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Re: Sowerby 'Cucumber' bowl
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 12:19:48 PM »
It's not Sowerby. It's the wrong shade of green. I would also be very surprised if it contains any uranium or did indeed glow very bright under a UV light; it just doesn't look right to my eye. It might be Davidson; it might be Bagley; it might not even be English. I suspect that the mould maker sold this mould to several companies in various sizes: that it wasn't specially commissioned. You might get further if you try to match sizes.

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Re: Sowerby 'Cucumber' bowl
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 03:29:12 PM »
Thanks, I read that the pattern would be spread about a bit.I will look into it. I have it on ebay but I like to know just for my own interest. It certainly glows but have been told it could be something other than uranium giving the same effect. Must go to ebay and amend the listing.
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Re: Sowerby 'Cucumber' bowl
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 04:34:46 PM »
That looks like a uranium glow to me. Too bright to be anything else!
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Re: Sowerby 'Cucumber' bowl
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 05:25:42 PM »
it does appear to be a Bagley pattern which I believe is called the 'No. 2 cucumber' - although I stand to be corrected Christine ;)       However, confusion sets in with the stated catalogue sizes  -  as both Bagley and Sowerby (Sowerby No. 2153) say their larger examples are 12".          Mine is 12.3/4" (no jokes please as we aren't in the cafe), but this size issue has come up before, and I'm always being told that figures were only nominal anyway.        Pete's looks as though it's u., but that background colour is a bit misleading.    Always use a black background if you are doing a u. shot.        I found a pair of this larger size recently in a charity shop, and must admit I was fairly convinced, even in daylight that they were u.          Attached is a 'glowing' image of mine.
Can you give us another shot please using a plain black background.
The other point, if I can be Mr. Picky again please :)  try to measure as accurately as possible, and state what the sizes are  -  standing a ruler up against the wall is useless and inaccurate, and most of the time the scale cannot be read as the printed numbers are too small to be seen clearly. :)

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Re: Sowerby 'Cucumber' bowl
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 07:09:36 PM »
Thats similar to where I was with the naming. The tape was a waste of time but was better than the 50p piece I was going to use for some scale  ;D I will be back at mine in a few days and will take a picture on a black background. I'm learning all the time on here so do appreciate the tips and suggestions. I measured from the outer edges of the piece to 32cm but will be exact when I get home. Thanks
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Re: Sowerby 'Cucumber' bowl
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 07:13:03 PM »
Looking at that pic it's probably uranium and most likely Bagley. Measure it in inches, not cm

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Re: Sowerby 'Cucumber' bowl
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 07:22:11 PM »
Its 12 and a half inches  (not the Cafe) but will measure it up later.     On a photo subject, I get a purple effect on a lot of my UV pics, any tips (I use a UV torch) thanks again all. Pete
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Re: Sowerby 'Cucumber' bowl
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 08:05:25 PM »
This is the only one I have which is a yellow uranium and measures 7.25" or 18.5cm

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Re: Sowerby 'Cucumber' bowl
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 08:06:55 PM »
by a process of elimination, it's either the torch, the camera or the material you're using as a background.         The torch needs to emit light in the long wavelength range i.e. 385 - 395 nm.           Maybe you have a dodgy camera lens, and as for the background, matt black card or paper is more than adequate.    It's possible that if you're using a woven or synthetic material for the background, then this might include something which could be reacting with the u.v. light and giving this purple effect.
As for measurements, if you are posting in 'Glass', do remember that the entire Continent of Europe might be reading your message, so these should be stated in both metric and imperial.

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