Topic: Art Deco Stuart Crystal

[petet63]

I have already listed these but would like to ask if anyone can name that pattern. I have searched as best I can but nothing matches. Again, this is purely so I know in the future if I see it again. Thanks

[Paul S.]

it looks like a sort of old fashioned egg and dart decoration joined by swags, but not sure, as your pictures are less than clear.     I've been through the Stuart section here....http://www.replacements.com/crystal/manu/C.htm.....but there are about 15 - 20 images missing, and just our luck could be one of yours, but feel free to look again.        Don't know that I'd call this decoration art deco, necessarily - almost a Georgian style.        Assume you are saying Stuart because your pieces have the backstamp??         Try other glass matching/replacement sources.

[petet63]

Ive tried till my eyes bled and my fingers ached, must get a mouse for my laptop. The Stuart mark on the base is the one used c1926 from the info I have found and the shape I have seen in other Art Deco pieces from Stuart dated to 1921. I have taken some more pictures hope they help.

[Paul S.]

sorry, the pix aren't really any improvement - are you using a camera or phone?    If you are serious about posting pictures on the GMB for the purposes of identification, then the images need to be of good quality.       Without looking, I trust that your comments about the period of use for this mark are correct, but just because this backstamp started life at the beginning of the art deco period doesen't automatically make the decoration on the glass an art deco style  -  and certainly not in this instance.    Look at books showing art deco style and fashion and you will see the difference.       As you will have seen from searching the Stuart patterns in the link, this factory produced a myriad of styles taken from the last couple of centuries, and from memory I don't recall seeing any which I'd have said were out and out art deco - most appear to be a sort pastiche of classical abstract or floral type of decoration.      Am sure that you're aware that some Stuart pieces carry, additionally, the Rd. No., and this can help with identification  -  although assume yours doesn't.       This is all just part of a learning curve, and adds to your knowledge and enjoyment of glass.     Do look at art deco styles, which is not time wasted.

[Paul S.]

hello Pete            should have also added last night that a likely reason we cannot find your design is because of the age, and possibly short-lived use of your design.   There are only a few of the older designs shown in Miller's, and most of the examples shown on the replacement/matching web sites are items that have occured over only the past half century  -  not far enough back to include your one  -  possibly.       There seems to be a lack of generally available literature for the older material -although we do have one old catalogue in the vaults of the GMB covering patterns of larger items.........http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,37350.msg204478.html#msg204478   

[petet63]

I cant use my camera, its 12.2mp and they wont resize to post. I will try for a direct link. Thanks for all the help so far, much appreciated. Pete

[Paul S.]

I'm an ignoramus re cameras, but wouldn't a programme like IrfanView re-size adequately for you??

[ahremck]

Try http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=938 where I put up a Stuart Catalog - it may contain your pattern.

Ross

[petet63]

Will check out that link, thanks Ross. I tried resizing on both photo bucket and on my own programme. I'm not so good with cameras either but will sort something. I will check how to link to photo bucket and try that way. I'm not at home so will do it tonight. Are these champagne bowl or dessert ?  (They are fragile and I'm surprised they have lasted so long. I will have to pack them very carefully, so far I haven't lost any in post)

[Paul S.]

I would have thought dessert bowls, but stand to be corrected.