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Tall satinated vase with wave pattern -- German?
« on: March 22, 2012, 04:38:12 PM »
Tall cylindrical vase, colourless glass with vertical wavy pattern and satinated finish.
Quite heavy (1.4 kg) due to the lower part being solid glass.

Height 27 cm, diameter 6.5 cm, beautifully ground and polished (and bevelled) rim, flat polished base with circular pontil mark.

First I thought Peill & Putzler, but not the faintest mark visible. It did have the remains of a rectangular label (pic added), which wouldn't fit either...

Any idea of a maker? Am I right in thinking German?

Thanks!
Michael

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Re: Tall satinated vase with wave pattern -- German?
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2012, 09:09:41 AM »
I would think Czechoslovakia is a possibility, in the book 'Czech Glass 1945-80, Design in an age of adversity' Arnoldshe, lots of lovely photos, silmilarities in style to some Moser designs, but Jindrich would probably know if Czech is likely.
Lovely thing !
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Re: Tall satinated vase with wave pattern -- German?
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2012, 11:10:53 AM »
Thanks a lot, Andy!
I have the book, so I will take a look.

Czech didn't cross my mind so far, maybe due to the overall similarity to the Peill vases...

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Re: Tall satinated vase with wave pattern -- German?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2012, 07:59:19 AM »
It looks much more German than Czech to me, but I can't pin it down to a maker either.

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Re: Tall satinated vase with wave pattern -- German?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2012, 02:38:56 PM »
Astrid, thanks a lot for looking into this.

After checking my Czech books and several 100 issues of CGR I am rather confident too that it isn't Czech...

So most probably German, and not Peill...
Any other names I could research more deeply? - Nachtmann? Is it worth checking the Gralglas CD?
Quality is really good...

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Re: Tall satinated vase with wave pattern -- German?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2012, 08:44:53 PM »
Rosenthal might be the next best bet. They had satinated designs in the past in their studio-line (although these were usually etched as well)

But I wouldn't exclude any of the other makers (for instance Nachtmann) - I have no idea which of the German makers were into satinated thickwalled vases. Warmensteinach did half satinated crystal vases, there is one 70s catalogue of them at Pamela's.

I'm not sure if satinated was a popular technique in Scandinavia or France, those were the other countries that I was thinking of.

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Re: Tall satinated vase with wave pattern -- German?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2012, 03:56:15 PM »
Thanks again, Astrid!

I searched a little for Rosenthal, Warmensteinach, Nachtmann, and even Oberglas, but no match; and regarding the remains of the label on mine, neither of their labels seems to fit either...

With satinized glass being highly fashionable in the 1970s and 80s, I guess this will be a tough one to ID ::)

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Re: Tall satinated vase with wave pattern -- German?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2012, 05:49:41 PM »
Hi Michael,
WMF might be a candidate also. I remember I´ve seen a similar vase with lens cut pattern
some time ago on ebay. Apart from that cut pattern it had quite similar features concerning
thickness of the glass and surface finish. I´ve already tried to find it - even in the finished
auctions, but it seems it´s gone already...
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Re: Tall satinated vase with wave pattern -- German?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2012, 06:34:29 PM »
Thanks Dirk! -- WMF is another maker I didn't think of...
I will look into that.

BTW, is there any literature on post war WMF glass? (I see so many ebay items attributed to WMF -- and Erich Jachmann, and wonder where all this information comes from)

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Re: Tall satinated vase with wave pattern -- German?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2012, 06:17:49 PM »
While searching for WMF I found another maker:
Christinenhütte (plant of Schott-Zwiesel group as far as I know)

The shape of the label fits perfectly to the remains on mine, and they seem to have done satinated pieces:
http://www.glaskilian.de/Hohe-sandgestrahlte-Vase-Chris.1160+B6YmFja1BJRD0xMTYwJnByb2R1Y3RJRD0yMzE4MCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD0xMTYwJmRldGFpbD0_.0.html
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Designer-Objekt-Golfspieler-Glas-CHRISTINENHUTTE-Schott-Zwiesel-/120884666510?pt=Golf_Zubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item1c2549a08e

This link shows a totally different style, but with the same perfectly circular pontil mark as in mine: http://www.glas-vasen.ch/von/christinenhuette/christinen_glas_001.html

What do you think?

Michael

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