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Offline Nemmie

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Coach bolt? Blue and yellow stripes
« on: April 15, 2012, 01:25:48 PM »
In my continuing quest to find an early piece of Isle of Wight I purchased this lovely vase. To my mind it has all the qualities that Mark Hill mentions in his book. The glass is thicker, it does involve a striped pattern and although I am prepared to be told that I am wrong again that looks like a coachbolt pontil mark to me. It also is reminiscent of Mdina so would make sense as an evolution piece.

Now over to you for the umpteen reasons why it isn't.  ;D

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Re: Coach bolt? Blue and yellow stripes
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2012, 01:37:12 PM »
 :o :o :o

You know what? I think you've done it!

I've never seen anything like this before - not blue and amber swirls, and it's wonky (unusual for IoWSG) and it's not even any sort of standard shape gone wonky.

But everything about it just screams that it's an early experimental bit of IoWSG.
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Re: Coach bolt? Blue and yellow stripes
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2012, 02:30:02 PM »
 ;D

It is a bit wonky and the shape reminds me of something an amateur potter might create but it looks and feels lovely.

Very happy to have finally got there! :)



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Re: Coach bolt? Blue and yellow stripes
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2012, 03:00:11 PM »
Don't go assuming I'm right - it's just my opinion!
I haven't had a good feel or anything...

I need to hear what John thinks... just for a start......
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Re: Coach bolt? Blue and yellow stripes
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2012, 08:02:58 PM »
That is tricky.....

My initial reaction was no chance, mostly as a result of the colour and shape. However, the only early experimental examples I can compare it to are the few in Mark Hill's book, mostly photographed on pages 72 and 73. Which is not much to go on. I would not like to say either way, how about a  'close up' photo showing the detail of the coloured swirls and some dimensions? Any big air bubbles?

That swirl of iridescence from the silver chloride leaking has me wondering. Maybe.

I wonder if anyone at the Studio could help?

John

The more I look at your photos the less I am inclined to say not.

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Re: Coach bolt? Blue and yellow stripes
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2012, 05:15:35 AM »
I will provide more pictures later. Vase stands 5.5 inches in height. There are not bubbles in the stripes as found on pieces such as blue and white swirls or tortoiseshell.

I am now lucky enough to own a nice selection of early Mdina and earlyish Isle of Wight and to me this piece does stand up well in comparison.

This morning I noticed that the sides of this vase are similar to a bowl that was produced. There is one currently listed on Ebay.

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Re: Coach bolt? Blue and yellow stripes
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2012, 08:02:43 AM »
That is an interesting observation, not noticed that.

Very nice too that particular 'Elephants Foot' bowl on ebay.....

John




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Re: Coach bolt? Blue and yellow stripes
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 10:23:15 AM »
 :D

My initial reaction was "no chance" too, BUT:-
There's the streak of iridesence - absolutely correct
The coach-bolt pontil mark
The swirl pattern was used both at Mdina and in the very early experimental days of IoWSG.
The colours are correct. This blue is the shade used in the strapped aurene pieces - it may look a little dull - but it's mixed a bit with the ambers and ochres.

The WAY the colours work together to create the design, as a whole, is absolutely spot-on perfect.
(try examining these pink and blue swirls in close-up!)



But it is a very funny shape.
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Re: Coach bolt? Blue and yellow stripes
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 04:45:34 PM »
Finally managed to take some more pictures. I don't think the shape is that funny if you take the elephant bowl into consideration.

Anyway I hope these are close enough up for you to see the swirl formation.

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Re: Coach bolt? Blue and yellow stripes
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2012, 05:26:48 PM »
It looks exactly right - all the thread-thin streaks and tiny elongated (vertical direction) spots.

The only things going against it are the non-standard shape, the non-standard colour combination and the non-standard wonkiness.

All of which could be accounted for if it really IS a true, experimental early piece, which the coach-bolt pontil mark strongly suggests.
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