Topic: Ikora style lamp base...

[rocco]

m, I am with Dirk (and you) in being 85% sure these are WMF Ikora...

It is just that the remaining 15% (the differences in shape, fitting, decor...) bring out my bad habit to research and speculate too much

On Craig's great site are many Kralik Art Deco shapes and decors, some of which are similar to my lamps >> Link
But no exact match...

Michael

[rocco]

As I have the yellow/red lamp in front of me at the moment (I rewired it, and it will be my new desk lamp), I am bringing this thread up again.

I have seen around six or seven more of these lamps locally since I last posted in this thread, a friend of mine has bought a very nice one, and none had a WMF fitting.
Here is another one on ebay from an Austrian seller, same decor as my first one, different shape: >> Link

I am starting to lean towards a different maker than WMF, and I have found a candidate: S. Reich & Co / Českomoravské sklárny (ČMS).

Pressglas-korrespondenz.de has published a pattern book from around 1940, showing some lighting glass and vases in a style very similar to Ikora.
>> http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2011-4w-vejrostova-reich-1940.pdf

Especiall some of the vases on page 11 (pic with the black background) look rather close to my lamps with the pronounced crackle pattern and the different coloured mottling; so do some of the the lamp bases on page 12.

As Reich was based in Vienna, and obviously one of the biggest glass makers at the beginning of the 20th century, that would explain the abundance of these lamps here...

I am grateful for any opinions if I could be on the right track, or just talking nonsense to myself

Thanks,
Michael

[flying free]

oooh yes!!! I would say definitely on the right track Michael - great sleuthing.
There are a few things there (I've looked at this before and don't know why I didn't pick up on these except I was looking for cameo glass)
that are very interesting in terms of other items as well -
Some of those look as though they could  be misidentified as Kralik elsewhere perhaps (page 11) - I did mention pieces I'd seen as Kralik that had similarities to yours before 
Also the vase on page 8 - that reminds me of some Beranek pieces? (I need to do a translate on this to understand all that has been said)
and those pieces on page 13 - yellow and orange - maybe they are similar to a blue and red bowl that there was some discussion over recently on whether it was Monart or WMF.

Those ones on page 13 with the rings around the neck - they remind me of your pulegoso vases as does the texture on the Beranek type on on page 8 - were your two id'd as Reich - I can't remember not been on a glass page for nearly two weeks and my memory has deserted me.
m

[dirk.]

Very interesting, Michael - wow! That piece of info in PK escaped me... Thanks a lot! 

[rocco]

Thanks, so I am not making a complete fool out of myself, great

Those pattern book pages are really interesting, regarding there is not much info found on the output of ČMS.
I was totally excited when I first saw them...
And some Pulegoso pieces which look suspicially like early Beranek, but are not in the pattern books, may be Reich as well (not very surprising, Emanuel Beranek seems to have been the technical director there before founding his own company).

@miranda: thanks for spotting those vases same shape (and size) as my Pulegoso piece with the ringed neck -- somehow they had escaped my attention due to the totally different decor. I got the ID from a Sypka auction catalogue, so didn't doubt really that they were Reich & Co., but good to have the pattern book images to confirm.

>> This ball lamp I had linked to somewhere at the start could be a shape match to the lamp bases in the last row of page 12, but it is the only possible match so far. I have seen at least one lamp in this shape here as well.
I will take photographs of all others I come across...
The plot thickens

BTW, one of those nice knobbly vases (like the ones on page 6) is for sale here for quite some time, unfortunately at a ridiculously high prize.

Michael

[flying free]

MIchael there is also a Johnolyth vase there right at the top - does it say anywhere there is a connection between Johnolyth and Reich please?
thanks
m

[rocco]

The text left from that image says (approxiamtely, just a very rough translation )
...Among the technologically sophisticated hot techniques, that were used at Krasno, was during the 1940s a painted decoration between two layers of glass. According to Jitka Lněničková this technique had been patented in 1915, and enhanced by Ernst Hantich during the 1920s with metal foil and air bubbles (similar to WMF Ikora)...
... "Johnolyth" from Ernst Hantich & Co was issued in 1931.
Miloš Bohuslav Volf attributes the design of those pieces to the brothers Zemek at Krasno glassworks, because there had been the technical and personel resources to realize them.

Michael

[flying free]

oh, thank you:)

I found that a bit hard to understand, and I still don't understand it 
so is it saying that the Johnolyth pieces are a follow on from an idea already developed at Krasno?  or is it saying that he attributes the Johnolyth pieces as being designed at Krasno by the Zemek brothers as they are the company that had the technology to be able to make them?  mmm, why are they signed Johnolyth then?  I'm a bit confused.  (not hard lol).
m

[rocco]

I found it confusing as well, that's why I had to translate the text (I wasn't able to give you a short summary)

Michael

[flying free]

oh good -  it wasn't just me being a bit dense then
I might try and delve for more information once I'm back on glass.
m