Topic: Will the real Nuutajarvi Kastehelmi Candle Holder please stand up?

[Jayne]

I have 3 sets of candle holders which I assumed were Nuutajarvi Notsjo, Kastehelmi (Teardrop) Pattern designed by Oiva Toikka but they are all slightly different. The colours look more different in the photos than in reality.

I read somewhere on the board a topic where someone had seen very similar candle holders with a different maker label but I can't see it for looking.

Does anyone know how to tell which is Nuutajarvi?

[Ivo]

we did have a discussion on this board some time ago on the sun catchers with a similar design which turned out to be Norwegian - Hadeland I think.

[Lustrousstone]

Cascade possibly. I suspect the four smaller lighter ones are not Nuutajärvi

[flying free]

Just having a look round as I also have a pair of these but a different shape to yours- mine have a design 'device' whereby they stack and if I was comparing I would say that those on the left are the comparable colour to all the pieces I have had.  I do wonder if turquoise was issued and reissued again a bit later perhaps in the paler colour? 
There is more information on the board somewhere as the colour of these was discussed at some point in the last couple of years.
meanwhile I thought I'd put this link on here that I've found - interview with Oiva Toikka
http://www.craftscouncil.org.uk/files/crafts-magazine/taster-articles/birdman-oiva-toikka.pdf

[Jayne]

My thanks to all for your input.

To add, they are all of the exact same size diameter Christine, the central one may be half a mm shorter than the other two, and possibly weigh slightly less. This central one also has a thin sharpish rim, where the left one has almost no rim, and the right one a comparably thicker rim.

[Lustrousstone]

I meant smaller in that the two on the left are distinctly more butch than the four on the right

[rocco]

I would go with Ivo and suspect that neither is Nuutajärvi...
Among the more than 200 Kastehelmi pieces in the >> laatutavara webshop is none in this shape.
All pieces from this range I have seen so far have the pattern all over, with no undecorated areas.

Michael

[Jayne]

20th Century Glass has them in their Encyclopedia...

http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/scandinavian_glass/nuutajarvi_glass/nuutajarviglass_home.htm

[rocco]

Jayne, I certainly could be wrong...

But since they seem to appear almost exclusively in England (and not in Finland), and only in amber and blue despite of the much more abundant colourless version, maybe Sue is right with Cascade glass?

I had some of the small bowls with Arabia label, and they were definately brown (see attached pic) and not amber like the candle holders on Wayne's site.
The small dishes (like >> these) I have, too, and they don't have the raised undecorated rim like the ones in 20th Century Glass encyclopedia.

Since neither of these shapes is on the laatutavara site, I would like to see a labeled piece before I am convinced these are Nuutajärvi

Michael

[Jayne]

Rocco thank-you I will take all your points into consideration.