Topic: Could this oval rose bowl be from John Walsh Walsh?

[glassobsessed]

While photographing this rose bowl today I noticed for the first time that it has spiralling ribs (I counted 18, they are on the outside). I have been wondering where it was made for a while (French was my first musing), the finish and the ribbing now has me wondering about Walsh Walsh.

It is about 4½ inches tall (11.5cm), 8 inches long (20.5cm) and 6¼ inches wide (16cm).

Any ideas?

John

[Lustrousstone]

Looks likely IMHO

[keith]

I'd say so,very nice

[glassobsessed]

Oooo, thank you both. 

I am all excited, my very first bit then. The glass is lovely, it has a substantial feel, the metal work though has seen better days.

[keith]

Here's one similar with a 'frilly' rim

[Bernard C]

John — as everyone else has said, Walsh mother of pearl, no question at all.   Lovely quality metal flower holder, added to the bowl by Walsh and not by a metalbasher buying in the glass from Walsh.   Whether Walsh actually made these flower holders and their naturalistic epergne metalwork is not known, but, as they were in Birmingham, they would probably have been able to buy them from a local metalbasher at a lower cost than making them.

Bernard C. 

[flying free]

Just curious to know, given on another thread we are trying to identify a vase with applied trails, whether there was anyone else other than Walsh Walsh making this mother of pearl finish at all?
All I've found is Steuben verre de soie, and some Kralik pieces which aren't quite the same finish.
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[glassobsessed]

I remember seeing your vase Keith, it came up when I was searching here on the board and I think via Google, I did not notice the similarity of design, those 'bulging sections'. No idea what they would be called.

Thank you for confirming JWW Bernard, this bowl has the first flower holder I remember seeing that has two layers of brasswork so that stems are held at two points - this was designed for precision arrangements.

John

[Bernard C]

...   this bowl has the first flower holder I remember seeing that has two layers of brasswork so that stems are held at two points - this was designed for precision arrangements.   ...

John — If you look in Reynolds, pp16–17, you will see your Walsh flower holder design illustrated on an example of Vesta Venetian dating from November 1907.   On the opposite page you will see an illustration clearly showing the two layers of brasswork on a Walsh flower holder with a different rim, this time on registered design 582840 of April 1911 (also illustrated in Gulliver).   I will have an example of this design on my stand at Cambridge next week, and, like yours, the metalwork is past its best, but it's all original and it has not been "improved" or "restored" in any way.   It also has a beautifully engraved registration number on the base.

Bernard C. 

Sticklers — should that have been "Gulliver.)" and "has passed"?   I'm getting sloppy and I suspect my Eats, Shoots & Leaves has been tidied up, as it's not where I expected it to be.

[Ivo]

John — as everyone else has said, Walsh mother of pearl, no question at all.   Lovely quality metal flower holder, added to the bowl by Walsh and not by a metalbasher buying in the glass from Walsh.   Whether Walsh actually made these flower holders and their naturalistic epergne metalwork is not known, but, as they were in Birmingham, they would probably have been able to buy them from a local metalbasher at a lower cost than making them.

I remember seeing an advertisement circa 1920 from a company specialising in metal grills in all shapes, qualities and sizes. They were based in Bham and advertised in a gardening mag.  Of course, no way I could find that reference again...