Topic: Help Wanted

[Dougie Forsyth]

I inherited from my mother a glass bowl which she received in the 1940's. I was only a kid at the time but understand that it came from a Mr Ysart as thanks for some assistance my mother had given him - we lived in Perth at the time. Is there anyone in New Zealand who can advise on this bowl - approx 8-9 inch diameter, 4 in deep. Green/orange mottle colour.
Thanks
Dougie F

[Kiwi Bill]

Hi Dougie,

I live in NZ and willing to help if possible, but if you could post a picture on this site for all to see, I'm sure the more experienced collector would
help with your enquiry.
My private email address is attached see below.

Regards

Gangster098
AW (Bill) Smith

[Dougie Forsyth]

Thank you Bill for your kind offer of assistance. Being an oldie in my 70's I am not too familiar with all computing actions but I have posted pics of this. to my bagpipe site at http://communities.msn.com/bagpipeman in the pictures section under Glassware. I hope you can access this OK.
Thanks again - I will also send pics to your Email address
Dougie F

[millarart]

Hi there,
                your bowl looks very much like Vasart glass made by the Ysart family, the colour and pontil look correct for this glass, bu ti coould be wrong but im sure im not,  hope this helps
                     Gary

[Frank]

It is Vasart, shape B026.
http://www.ysartglass.com/Vascat/VasB021.htm

[Dougie Forsyth]

Thanks to those who advised on this - my sister advises that "Old" Mr Ysart delivered this to my mother on Dec 24, 1945.
Dougie F

[KevinH]

Dec 24, 1945

Well, that means it was not Vasart - 9 months too early :!: Could this be evidence of a "Vasart" shape actually being made by Salvador at the Moncrieff works?

Or could it have been Dec 1946?

[Dougie Forsyth]

Definitely pre Christmas 1945 as we then lived in the same area as the Ysarts and we moved to another region in March 1946

[Frank]

In which case it is Monart shape X, interesting that this shape is evolving from the Monart to Vasart form. I show two variants of it here http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page01vary.htm

But because of the date of this piece it makes it rather special. It would be properly classed as a one off special - it could well be that Mr Ysart (Any idea which one?) chose the colours to suit your mothers taste, so let's give it a name "The Forsyth Bowl" and I would like to add it to the Monart specials page along with it's story. http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/YsartSpecial.htm could you send me some larger images please? Preferably on a plain light background :-)

It is rare to get a piece with a good date of manufacture and as we gather more such examples it will be invaluable for future research.

The caveat is not going to add much to its value but it would put it in the higher price range for such a piece as collectors would be quite keen to handle it.

Not everyone approves of my naming individual items but it does provide a focus for the pieces place in history and makes referring to it easier.

[KevinH]

In which case it is Monart shape X

Another thought, but just speculation on my part, is that maybe Salvador (or Paul?), in the initial desire to get back into Monart production after the war, started to develop some variations on the old shapes?