Topic: Frankinstein Georgian Glass?

[oldglassman]

HI ,
              Hee hee , stirrup cups on eBay , I have lost count of the number of times I have informed sellers that there 200 year old stirrup cup is actually a candle holder ,sold by Habitat in a metal stand ,then they insist it cant be as granny has had it forever lol .

  cheers ,
               Peter.

[Paul S.]

well, someone loved my glass  -  quote................"I love your twist stem glass, it's beautiful."

thanks folks for the information.            Mine came from a boot sale some few years back, from memory, and I don't recall having seen another subsequently, so perhaps they're rare.        Not always easy to see the point of someone hotworking a separate stem and bowl for a glass that has very little commercial value, although I can see the reasoning if the piece has some half decent value.
Can't detect any colour difference in the flesh  -  admittedly I have shoved some black ink on the stem where I was counting the facets.
For what I paid  -  probably a quid or two  -  it's an interesting glass, and good to have an example of this fraudulent hot-worked skullduggery.

I'd agree re the classification of ebay sellers  -  my objection to that method is the ease and lack of 'the chase' - how much more fun to go out and hunt through boxes at an antiques fair or up-market boot sale, and then find a gem, for a song.            Money just makes life too easy.          

[oldglassman]

Hi ,
           Here's one I knitted earlier    I bought this very many years ago as an example so that others could see that a hot weld was possible., this one has a repro foot attached and the twisting is clearly visible.

   cheers
                  Peter

 oops forgot to say that I don't think all hot welded jobs are done with the intention to deceive ,as you can see with mine this wont fool anyone I think the problem comes when they get into the hands of sellers who have less knowledge than they really should have to be selling antique glass.

[KevinH]

Wearing my moderator hat: Please note that concern has been raised about some of the general comments on eBay sellers (and others). Within board guidelines, it is stated that "item is not as described" is the way to handle such observations rather than claiming (without proper evidence) that a seller is or may be a fraudster.

Taking my moderator hat off, I can say that (possible) "welded marriages" are also known (or believed) for other than stemmed glasses. I once bought a good English paperweight with an attached "taper stick" - at least, the auction house description was "... 19th century Whitefriars paperweight with applied 18th century taper stick ...". The item is actually a 20th century piece very likely by Walsh Walsh. ( * ) I do not think for one moment that the auctioneers were attempting deceit - just severely misinformed.

( * ) Edited later to remove incorrect reference reference to Hill Ousten catalogue. Sorry about my mistake.

I also have an interesting (to me) vase on paperweight of Scottish 20 century origin but for which a foot has been added very recently simply as a repair, for stability, after an obvious and severe amount of damage to the lower part of the paperweight portion. Such an item is rare in Scottish work and well worth the repair. Fortunately, even disregrading the "wobbly" look of the whole thing, a quick check with uv light reveals an obvious difference in the glass of the foot and the other parts.

[oldglassman]

 Hi ,
          Frankenstein's sister !!!! ?.

   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121184494961?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

  cheers,
              Peter.

[Antwerp1954]

Poor English and dreadfully garbled description. Is it April 1st?