Topic: Blue pearline posy vase - any ideas?

[Wayne]

Thicker glass than Davidson's, I thought maybe one of the American makers, but can't find anything similar.  4.5 inches tall.

[bfg]

is that a birds claw foot?

'Piasa bird' pg 111 Opalescent glass (4th Edition)

Although they are using Manley's Decorative Victorian Glass book as a reference  and saying 'English, probably Sowerby' and we don't take him as gospel now do we.

have you got a more up to date edition?

Mel

Edited to add: ladies spittoon apparently!  - nice

and looks mostly like Northwood. Happy hunting 

[Wayne]

Thanks Mel, I don't have the Opalescent glass book, but I found the same design with turned in rim on Collectors Weekly:

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/24636-sowerby-glass-piasa-bird-rose-bowl?in=534

No one seemed sure about the maker though, apart from it not being Sowerby! 

It does seem very American and Northwoodish...I'll keep digging.

[Ohio]

The last Heacock edited by JoAnn Elmore has it as unknown, however virtually everyone else on line (multiple sources) are saying Sowerby. Its also known by Old Man of the Sea & Demonic. They do say that one novelty bowl (Admiral) is similar to the shape & coloration of Beaumont though so they were leaning toward that, but no proof. Ken

[Lustrousstone]

It's definitely not Sowerby

[agincourt17]

I know of no evidence to suggest that this is a Sowerby piece. It certainly looks American to me.

[Ohio]

Then this will remain an unknown unless a U.S. source attributes it as ours & that has not yet happened & its certainly been around long enough with so many U.S. pattern & opalescent references written within the past two decades.

[Bernard C]

Ken — I've never seen it, nor does the mouldmaking look British to me.   There are just too many differences.

Has anyone looked for similar design elements in Carnival glass?

Bernard C. 

[Ohio]

Bernard...a Glen, but I don't know if its Glen Thistlewood or not...shot this down as English on another site, but if it is "Glen" then the carnival aspect is unfortunately not favorable. James Measell would be one of the few people from my side of the pond that might be able to positively attribute it. One thing for certain its not from one of our well known manufacturers or it would have been pegged by now. If its Beaumont...well it would be close to impossible to prove it as I know of no "old" Beaumont catalogs that exist for them.

[Bernard C]

...   a Glen, but I don't know if its Glen Thistlewood or not...shot this down as English on another site, but if it is "Glen" then the carnival aspect is unfortunately not favorable.   ...

Ken — Interpretation depends on what question(s) you asked.   Did you ask if any Carnival collectors recognised any of the design elements?   One of my main reasons for suggesting Carnival is that Glen and her associates have been at the forefront of identifying previously unknown pressed glass factories in Europe, particularly in Eastern Europe.

Bernard C.